re: Another article about “the Boy Crisis” that gives a different perspective

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Partners

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frick this bullshite word and the meaning liberals have tainted it with. Anyone you have sex with, according to them, is a "partner" now. The level implied in that word used to be reserved for marriage or very-long-term relationships.

And because of that, as well as the OP's general reputation, I'm out.

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Feminist fiction

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I didn't see that, but yeah. Women require active response to combat stress/anxiety, and the woman writing tries to pigeon-hole men into that female paradigm. Men, typically, want silence or use focused activity (can be physical or mental) to de-stress, almost always individually. Women require much more active, social methods, like the "verbal release" (aka, complaining).

So yeah, writing about men "soothing anxieties" by acting like women is strange, to say the least. What I imagine is a better description is those women don't understand men and try to engage as if he's a woman, which will require more effort for fewer results b/c it's not how to de-stress a man, typically. I can see how this would "draw the emotional life" out of a woman, because it's an effort rooted in failure, just how men who get angry at women venting don't understand what's going on there, either.

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Why would grown men allow silly social norms to keep them from doing the things they want to do? Feminism is only a threat to weak men.

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Feminism is a crutch for emotionally weak women.

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Partners? We're talking about the male crisis and presupposing a partner?

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I didn’t focus on that aspect of the article, obviously. I thought the commentary about boy friendships to be pertinent to the boy crisis.

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So what do you think would happen for a generation of men where 30% or more of them have no hope for a partner?

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I haven’t commented on this because I don’t know much about the realities of this. I’m out of touch when it comes to young men I guess. I have a 25 year old relative who married her long-time boyfriend a couple of years ago. I think he’s wonderful and I like him a lot but he isn’t particularly anything and found a wife who is attractive and super sweet. I have a 17 year old nephew who has a girlfriend (and he’s homeschooled which limits his access to girls but he he found a gf…) I have another 21 year old relative who plan to marry her long time boyfriend when they finish college…

I don’t know how pervasive the problem of young women not wanting regular men really is and how much of it has been sensationalized.

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Societal norms have demonized all male ventures like fraternities, Boy Scouts, golf courses, the military and the list goes on.

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The societal norms referenced in the article are about boys not needing emotional support or intimate relationships.

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I don’t know how pervasive the problem of young women not wanting regular men really is and how much of it has been sensationalized.

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This isn't particularly new. I actually posted this large study OKCupid did LONG before Tinder and its progeny were a thing. They had to remove it because it had racial data and offended black women (they were rated the lowest of all the possibilities and it caused a shite storm).

The same basic pattern as above was true then, but it's been amplified in proper society because of how the educational system attacks men and has left a major sex imbalance in college. You combine the selective bias women have (see above) with a population imbalance where they out-number men, and you have a disproportionate sharing of women among the top tiers of men. Once this becomes accepted culturally (which is where we're at now with the sex imbalance taking hold over a long enough time), there is a cohort of men (which is like a 1/3 or so) who are non-persons to women.

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The societal norms referenced in the article are about boys not needing emotional support or intimate relationships.

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The author is retarded. Of course men need relationships and friendships. She just is not emotionally or intellectually intelligent enough to understand why men need them or where men might look for those.

Men used to find these friendships at work, in the Boy Scouts, country clubs, the military, fraternities, etc etc. Frats are demonized now, the left disparages the “Manosphere” on the internet, the Boy Scouts are co-ed, women are allowed in the military, golf courses are co-ed by law. There’s a zero tolerance policy for violence in every school in America. Most movies or tv shows that’s come out in the past 20 years has a girl boss hero in it.

It’s not just a boy crisis. It’s a girl crisis too because we’re convince young women that they can do anything boys can do, and that’s simply not the case. It never will be.

I have to look at the methodology of the studies that produced those graphs. I have a feeling the numbers have been manipulated to tell a certain story, as they typically are.

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Women are training their teenage daughters and other young women to sleep around and avoid committed relationships? This is your claim?

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Yes. Women are the primary drivers of the consumerist economy that drives pop culture, Hollywood, social media.