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Today’s good news- Washington: 77,000 acres of forest to be taken off logging rotation.

Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:50 am
In light of the recent commentary on all the OT‘s bad news stories.
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In Washington state, a new Public Lands Commissioner has announced that 77,000 acres of special forests will be taken off the state’s logging rotation for conservation purposes.

These “legacy forests,” as they’re being called, are in a state of growth between secondary forests and old growth forests. They’re defined as one which was logged before World War II, but has since been allowed to grow, settle, and diversify, and contains large amount of biodiversity and more space between trees.

They could be thought of a little like a “coming of age forest” or the old growth forests of the 22nd century.


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Posted by saturday
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:51 am to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28944 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:51 am to
I support. This country is overpopulated. It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1185 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:59 am to
The forest service here in Oregon has fricking planted too many trees for too many years.

Kids get paid to plant trees by how many trees they plant in a day and boy are they working.

Sounds crazy but tree density matters when it comes to raging fires.

We honestly have too many trees.

The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.

Think about that.

Washington is fricking up, fall those trees; log those trees.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:04 pm to
Good luck with your wildfires.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19035 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:17 pm to

Is this where Fender and other manufacturers source their tonewood?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82820 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:20 pm to
I’m fine with not chopping down all the forests
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9521 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:21 pm to
Good. Nature is good. We don’t need more shitty tract homes and strip malls.

Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:22 pm to
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The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.


Yeah but I mean how much of that is actually just shrubs and mountains now identifying as trees?
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2768 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to
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The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
One thing that the majority of people don't know is the loss of trees is not the ecology that was most devastated by settling America, and as you mentioned, we're in no danger of losing trees, although bottomland hardwood tracts are becoming more and more rare and monoculture stands of timber are not ideal.

That said, it is the upland grasslands, prairies and savanna habitats that we've decimated, and they're far more important to a much larger swath of CONUS ecology than dense old growth forests. Outside of river bottom wetland areas, the Pacific NW rainforest and mountain regions, the majority of this country was open savanna, prairie and native grassland, and most of the species of this country are heavily adapted to, and oftentimes completely dependent on those types of habitat. It's like the old saying goes: pretty open woods and mowed fields are only pretty to humans.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24975 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to
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We honestly have too many trees.

The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.




Because we cut down natural forest and replant it with pine because pine is more profitable for timber. Grows fast and you can plant a high density of trees.

Natural old growth forest would have a lot more hardwoods with a tall, wide canopy. That canopy blocks sunlight from reaching the forest floor so you don't have as much undergrowth. Washington might be onto something for once.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35732 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
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It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.


There's a ton of development going on down here in places like John's Island and Daniel Island, where we have beautiful old growth forests, which these developers just clear cut to throw in the roads and homes. Breaks my heart because they're so beautiful. I'd pay extra to have a home nestled in there as opposed to a 8 foot palm or two from a nursery (not to mention the beneficial water absorption, heat protection/cooling/shade in the summer, etc the forests provide).

I wish there was some way to spare that old growth.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:17 pm to
So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?

Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2842 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:44 pm to
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So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?


Most of the. 77,000 acres are around streams, in draws, etc. They are most certainly logging the land around them as they are trust lands.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Is this where Fender and other manufacturers source their tonewood?
maybe? But what I do know is they use punky swole-butt green ash from the Tensas Parish swamps to make electric guitar bodies.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:20 pm to
quote:


So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?


It hasn't been logged since before WWII. It's not in a constant wildfire danger zone. Completely different ecosystem.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33790 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:20 pm to
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This country is overpopulated


This is completely false. Sure, certain areas are densely populated, but the vast majority of the country is not.

The United States has a population density of just 36 people per square kilometer, which is considered “moderately” dense.

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Comparison with other developed countries (approx. people per km²):
• Japan: ~330
• South Korea: ~530
• United Kingdom: ~280
• Germany: ~240
• France: ~120
• Italy: ~200
• Netherlands: ~520
• Belgium: ~380
• Canada: ~4 (but highly concentrated in a few southern cities)
• Australia: ~3 (also highly concentrated in coastal cities)
• United States: ~36



Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38627 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:34 pm to
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I support. This country is overpopulated. It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.


Yet, the party that claims to be tree huggers also supports unfettered immigration; thus putting more stress on natural resources and the clearing of green space for more housing, infrastructure, hospitals, schools, etc that increased population requires.

It's almost like the Left and the Democratic Party are completely full of shite and don't care about the environment at all.

If they actually gave a damn about their causes and weren't just hypocritical blowhards, there are two groups who should be on the border with a trowel in their hand building that wall: environmentalists and black leaders.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71115 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:44 pm to
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So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?


What specifics can you tell us about their forest management plan?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170351 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:46 pm to
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It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.

Or for "biofuels" which might be the dumbest idea of all time
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