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Today’s good news- Washington: 77,000 acres of forest to be taken off logging rotation.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:50 am
In light of the recent commentary on all the OT‘s bad news stories.
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In Washington state, a new Public Lands Commissioner has announced that 77,000 acres of special forests will be taken off the state’s logging rotation for conservation purposes.
These “legacy forests,” as they’re being called, are in a state of growth between secondary forests and old growth forests. They’re defined as one which was logged before World War II, but has since been allowed to grow, settle, and diversify, and contains large amount of biodiversity and more space between trees.
They could be thought of a little like a “coming of age forest” or the old growth forests of the 22nd century.
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:51 am to LSUTANGERINE
I support. This country is overpopulated. It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:59 am to LSUTANGERINE
The forest service here in Oregon has fricking planted too many trees for too many years.
Kids get paid to plant trees by how many trees they plant in a day and boy are they working.
Sounds crazy but tree density matters when it comes to raging fires.
We honestly have too many trees.
The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
Think about that.
Washington is fricking up, fall those trees; log those trees.
Kids get paid to plant trees by how many trees they plant in a day and boy are they working.
Sounds crazy but tree density matters when it comes to raging fires.
We honestly have too many trees.
The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
Think about that.
Washington is fricking up, fall those trees; log those trees.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:04 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Good luck with your wildfires.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Is this where Fender and other manufacturers source their tonewood?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:20 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I’m fine with not chopping down all the forests
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Good. Nature is good. We don’t need more shitty tract homes and strip malls.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:22 pm to One72
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The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
Yeah but I mean how much of that is actually just shrubs and mountains now identifying as trees?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to One72
quote:One thing that the majority of people don't know is the loss of trees is not the ecology that was most devastated by settling America, and as you mentioned, we're in no danger of losing trees, although bottomland hardwood tracts are becoming more and more rare and monoculture stands of timber are not ideal.
The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
That said, it is the upland grasslands, prairies and savanna habitats that we've decimated, and they're far more important to a much larger swath of CONUS ecology than dense old growth forests. Outside of river bottom wetland areas, the Pacific NW rainforest and mountain regions, the majority of this country was open savanna, prairie and native grassland, and most of the species of this country are heavily adapted to, and oftentimes completely dependent on those types of habitat. It's like the old saying goes: pretty open woods and mowed fields are only pretty to humans.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to One72
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We honestly have too many trees.
The amount of trees we have now in North America surpasses the amount of trees we have ever recorded in N America.
Because we cut down natural forest and replant it with pine because pine is more profitable for timber. Grows fast and you can plant a high density of trees.
Natural old growth forest would have a lot more hardwoods with a tall, wide canopy. That canopy blocks sunlight from reaching the forest floor so you don't have as much undergrowth. Washington might be onto something for once.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:47 pm to TexasTiger08
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It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.
There's a ton of development going on down here in places like John's Island and Daniel Island, where we have beautiful old growth forests, which these developers just clear cut to throw in the roads and homes. Breaks my heart because they're so beautiful. I'd pay extra to have a home nestled in there as opposed to a 8 foot palm or two from a nursery (not to mention the beneficial water absorption, heat protection/cooling/shade in the summer, etc the forests provide).
I wish there was some way to spare that old growth.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:44 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?
Most of the. 77,000 acres are around streams, in draws, etc. They are most certainly logging the land around them as they are trust lands.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:48 pm to Shexter
quote:maybe? But what I do know is they use punky swole-butt green ash from the Tensas Parish swamps to make electric guitar bodies.
Is this where Fender and other manufacturers source their tonewood?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:20 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?
It hasn't been logged since before WWII. It's not in a constant wildfire danger zone. Completely different ecosystem.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:20 pm to TexasTiger08
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This country is overpopulated
This is completely false. Sure, certain areas are densely populated, but the vast majority of the country is not.
The United States has a population density of just 36 people per square kilometer, which is considered “moderately” dense.
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Comparison with other developed countries (approx. people per km²):
• Japan: ~330
• South Korea: ~530
• United Kingdom: ~280
• Germany: ~240
• France: ~120
• Italy: ~200
• Netherlands: ~520
• Belgium: ~380
• Canada: ~4 (but highly concentrated in a few southern cities)
• Australia: ~3 (also highly concentrated in coastal cities)
• United States: ~36
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:34 pm to TexasTiger08
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I support. This country is overpopulated. It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.
Yet, the party that claims to be tree huggers also supports unfettered immigration; thus putting more stress on natural resources and the clearing of green space for more housing, infrastructure, hospitals, schools, etc that increased population requires.
It's almost like the Left and the Democratic Party are completely full of shite and don't care about the environment at all.
If they actually gave a damn about their causes and weren't just hypocritical blowhards, there are two groups who should be on the border with a trowel in their hand building that wall: environmentalists and black leaders.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:44 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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So when those 77,000 acres burn because of puss poor forestry management what happens?
What specifics can you tell us about their forest management plan?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:46 pm to TexasTiger08
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It’s sad to see so much natural beauty and green space being ripped up for strip malls.
Or for "biofuels" which might be the dumbest idea of all time
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