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WNBA players turned down a deal that would’ve quadrupled their pay

Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:33 am to
Imagine paying a woman $250k to be bad at basketball.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:33 am to
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not exactly bold, you never take the first offer.

Man there are gonna be some salty posters that don't understand economics on here when that deal gets done. "They've never turned a profit" while owners investments have gone up $100s of millions.

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In 2025, WNBA franchise values have seen a dramatic increase, with the league's 13 teams collectively valued at $3.5 billion, a 180% increase compared to the previous year, according to Sportico.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:37 am to
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Man there are gonna be some salty posters that don't understand economics on here when that deal gets done. "They've never turned a profit" while owners investments have gone up $100s of millions.



Why don't you just head them off at the pass and explain it to everyone now.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:38 am to
That’s great that the franchises are valued so well, but what’s the revenue and profit increase in that same time? Wouldn’t that dictate payment to the players?

I saw somewhere this will be the first time the league turns a profit ever and then a more interesting breakdown:

Apparently the NBA owned a 50% stake in the WNBA, meaning 50% of all revenue goes back to the NBA.
Additionally, a private investment group owns 16% (bought 8% from the NBA and 8% from the WNBA) meaning the actual WNBA teams only own 42% of all revenue associated with the league.

If that’s the case, the players asking for 50% of league revenue means they want more revenue than the teams themselves actually own, so there fore is impossible.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25186 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:47 am to
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Apparently the NBA owned a 50% stake in the WNBA, meaning 50% of all revenue goes back to the NBA.
Additionally, a private investment group owns 16% (bought 8% from the NBA and 8% from the WNBA) meaning the actual WNBA teams only own 42% of all revenue associated with the league.

If that’s the case, the players asking for 50% of league revenue means they want more revenue than the teams themselves actually own, so there fore is impossible.


I think you're mixing up "revenue" and "profit"

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:49 am to
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Why don't you just head them off at the pass and explain it to everyone now.

Capital gains are still profits, even if they aren't realized yet.

The Las Vegas Aces' franchise value is estimated to be around $310 million, making them one of the most valuable teams in the WNBA. This valuation has seen a significant increase since Mark Davis purchased the team in 2021 for $2 million.

It's weird that people can grasp the concept of paying employees based off valuation when it comes to tech companies, but not women's sports. Twitter reported a loss of $221 million for the fiscal year 2021, they still paid their employees $5.57 billion in payroll that year.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 9:57 am
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:53 am to
George Constanza: "I'm ne-go-ti-aaa-ting"

Takes an offer for 60% less a week later
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:56 am to
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Capital gains are still profits, even if they aren't realized yet.
How are they utilizing this to cover operating expenses?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:59 am to
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Capital gains are still profits, even if they aren't realized yet.
Roger, that you?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:04 am to
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Twitter reported a loss of $221 million for the fiscal year 2021, they still paid their employees $5.57 billion in payroll that year.


2021 era Twitter perhaps not the model you want to use as an example of a sound business operation
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:04 am to
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How are they utilizing this to cover operating expenses?

they aren't. they can gain capital based on their valuation to cover operating expenses, much like Twitter did until it sold for $44 billion to Elon.

Twitter reported a loss of $221 million for the fiscal year 2021, they still paid their employees $5.57 billion in payroll that year. The money comes from the NBA in the WNBA's case most likely. Silver sees potential in the future which is why he wanted to make sure the NBA maintained control of WNBA's TV rights for the next deal.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:06 am to
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2021 era Twitter perhaps not the model you want to use as an example of a sound business operation

They sold for $44 billion, I'd say it worked out for them pretty well. The WNBA owners are fine "losing" $10 million a year while their investment is worth $100 million more than it was the year before. Don't forget half of the WNBA owners are also NBA owners.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:07 am to
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while their investment is worth $100 million more than it was the year before


That’s uh not what happened when Twitter sold
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:09 am to
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The WNBA owners are fine "losing" $10 million a year while their investment is worth $100 million more than it was the year before.

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That’s uh not what happened when Twitter sold

no shite? go back to elementary school and learn to read
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63032 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:10 am to
Go back to business school and find some better case studies, toxic internet poster
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12820 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:20 am to
"We deserve more money. The brand is bigger than ever."

:Proceeds to isolate the only marketable player and ignore the last 25 years of deficits:
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:21 am to
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Proceeds to isolate the only marketable player

Idk her teammate looked to be getting pretty friendly with her in that one postgame locker room video
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:23 am to
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WNBA franchise values have seen a dramatic increase, with the league's 13 teams collectively valued at $3.5 billion


I don't think you understand how valuations work...just because one person says they're worth something doesn't mean someone else will actually pay it, nor does it mean a huge enough increase in revenue to do more than quadrupling salaries.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:27 am to
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nor does it mean a huge enough increase in revenue to do more than quadrupling salaries.

The valuations are tied to future revenue streams projected/already secured and current revenue.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:28 am
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