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CPI numbers should be reported tomorrow w/ potential rate cut implications..

Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Clint Torres
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:46 pm
Any predictions?
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4223 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:11 pm to
No predictions, but I'd like the data to all pull in the same direction so "Too Late" can be obviously right or wrong.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9239 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:22 pm to
Well; in the past 48 hours I visited my local Costco where 80/20 ground beef was $7lb. Over in the steaks; whole loin choice grade ribeyes were $19lb. Boneless skinless chicken breasts were marked down to $2.99lb from $3.49 just a month ago. I filled up for $3.20 a gallon at my local 7-Eleven which is higher than it was on Inauguration Day. I took my truck in for service at my local Toyota dealer. While it was being worked on, I cruised around the sales floor. I struck up a conversation with a sales person and asked him about the impact of tariffs. He said Toyota is doing everything in their power to keep the MSRP prices stable; but, went on to say you are damn sure gonna feel it in the service and parts department.

Obviously; my window to the world is my own, but it sure doesn’t feel like inflation is coming down to me.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30887 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:32 pm to
Inflation isn’t. That ship has sailed. The rate of inflation is slowing though.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1413 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:06 pm to
Consensus seems to be 2.8% but, both MS and GS are saying 3% on the CPI
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9643 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:43 pm to
3.2%

If it comes in too low, it's going to be a popular opinion that the numbers are fudged (BLS calculates CPI), which could throw the bond markets into some chaos. Damn shame we can't see a good or bad number and have faith that it's true but I guess that's what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57719 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:03 pm to
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but I guess that's what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.

Oh, frick off. Initial BLS job numbers had been atrociously off under her leadership, with the average adjustment being ~2x more than the average of her predecessors.

Sell your "I'm okay with failure as long as it's done on behalf of my political party" bullshite elsewhere because no one is buying it here.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92745 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:37 pm to
2.8 on headline and 3.0 on core

Its nearly impossible for progress with the replacement numbers being low and the Shelter weight

Lodging away crom home has been bad tho. If numbers dont rise much that means inflation is beyond low

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what happens when a leader throws a tantrum and fires the messenger.


You dont have a problem with overstating the jobs numbers by millions?

That dumbarse was give all sorts of ideas to correct under Bidens admin. Your TDS is too strong tho
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9643 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:38 pm to
It’s not partisan and there are a lot of reasons previous months’ data is updated. It’s been like that forever as some are slower to return surveys than others.

And it’s not just me saying this…I’m seeing it in all flavors of financial news sites. There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now, ESPECIALLY if we magically move to 1.9% cpi in the morning or show enormous job gains on 9/5.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9643 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:40 pm to
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You dont have a problem with overstating the jobs numbers by millions?


This is why Trump says this shite because he knows yall will lap it up without doing even 4 minutes of reading. Seriously, take 4 mins from your day to read instead of assuming everything is some political plot.
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6272 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:19 pm to
Kevin Hasset was on Fox. News Sunday morning saying the numbers weren’t wrong. They just said the formula needed to be updated to take into account the new world we live in like gig economy
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52922 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:03 pm to
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If it comes in too low, it's going to be a popular opinion that the numbers are fudged (BLS calculates CPI)

The numbers have been fudged for decades.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12545 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:49 am to
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There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now

Now? Just now? Why only now? All of the numbers before now were fine?

Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57719 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:57 am to
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And it’s not just me saying this…I’m seeing it in all flavors of financial news sites.


And those same sites were shaking their heads with every BLS revision, dismayed at how the initial numbers could be off so badly. For the last 9 months of 2024, jobs were overstated by 800k, meaning that the period went from +600k jobs to -200k jobs.

That level of inaccuracy is unacceptable, and those same sites have said the same thing, but for some reason when OMB makes BLS leadership accountable then there's pearl-clutching.

If you can't see the ridiculousness of bitching about something then bitching about when it's addressed then you aren't being cleverly observant, you're part of the partisanship problem which causes these problems to linger in the first place.

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There’s real concern about the validity of US government data now, ESPECIALLY if we magically move to 1.9% cpi in the morning or show enormous job gains on 9/5.


Those are the same types who swore up and down Trump won 2016 because he colluded with Russia. The numbers reported this month will still have been gathered and organized under McEntarfer so there's no actual point in all of this faux concern other than just another avenue for pushing out "dRUMPf da debil!111" rhetoric.

Be better.
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
877 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:13 am to
I’m not sure why these government reports are a big deal. Most large investment companies have their own economic teams who do labor analysis and other financial factors including inflation measures independent of government reports.

These government reports help media with headlines. Not sure what else.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92745 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:14 am to
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This is why Trump says this shite because he knows yall will lap it up without doing even 4 minutes of reading. Seriously, take 4 mins from your day to read instead of assuming everything is some political plot.


They revised the report by 1mil last year. What did that have to with Trump

They just revised the last 2mnths by 295k jobs. It seems you are the one who needs to learn to read.

Your TDS is off the charts
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2832 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:26 am to
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I’m not sure why these government reports are a big deal.


Bc the Fed ostensibly relies on these numbers
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26158 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:31 am to
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Any predictions?


I keep hearing that the market has this, jobs and rate cuts "built in" already, so as long as it isn't off the by like 1%, shouldn't the markets not have a crazy reaction?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86007 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 am to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29153 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 am to
I'm more concerned with what PPI numbers look like in a couple of days. I'm a producer, and my prices have gone up 10-20% in the past month. I know I'm just one little part of one little part of the manufacturing world. All of my suppliers have gone up, but I mainly deal with glass and aluminum, which are commodities. I'm curious how other industries are doing.
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