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Most Popular Seafood in the U.S. Now Being Farmed in 100's of Indoor Pools Across the U.S.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:53 am
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The drive through Triple J Farms outside St. Louis, Missouri, is pretty much what you'd expect. A long gravel road winds past fields of soybeans and an occasional Caterpillar construction vehicle in an expansive meadow, before arriving at a red, metal-sided barn. But inside, instead of being filled with typical barn accouterments like tractors, work boots and shovels, it's filled with, well, shrimp.
Fourteen aboveground pools of shrimp, to be exact, are flanked by an inordinate amount of hoses, buckets and fans that make it possible to churn out 5,000 pounds of Pacific white shrimp each year—700 miles from the nearest ocean.
The operation is about as under the radar as it gets. Orders for Jeff Howell's shrimp (sold under the brand Triple J Farms) have had a 2-month-long waiting list despite Howell doing no advertising outside of a few social media posts and a handful of community news articles. (As of publication, they are currently open to the public for orders without the wait.) Howell believes people want to know where their food comes from, and says that when he gives tours, visitors often become instant customers after he talks about overfishing and the perils of the global shrimp industry.
But it's the freshness and unparalleled taste of his shrimp that seals the deal—"along with the goofy little cooking videos I post on social media," he laughs. "Not many people around here have prepared a whole, head-on shrimp, so I thought it would be beneficial to show how easy it is to cook them." Clearly, his small-scale tactics are having a big impact. "We don't do any advertising," he says, "but people knock on our door constantly. Even with our closed sign, they still show up."
For all the head-scratching such an operation may inspire, Triple J is not alone in their quest to bring shrimp, the most consumed seafood product in the U.S., to landlocked parts of the country in creative, DIY setups that often look like indoor swimming centers.
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Despite U.S. seafood farming being recognized by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration as one of the most environmentally sustainable ways to produce food, we import 1.5 billion pounds of shrimp annually from countries including India, Thailand, Ecuador and Indonesia. Half of the seafood the U.S. imports comes from aquaculture, and the global aquaculture industry increased by 527% between 1990 and 2018.
This growth has sometimes come with a steep cost. Mangrove forests, tangles of trees and shrubs that grow along the coasts in tropical and subtropical regions, are often turned into shrimp farms. Ocean advocacy organization Oceana says farms built in these vital ecosystems have destroyed natural habitats for birds, mammals and fish. The nonprofit also mentions pollution of coastal systems from the runoff of heavy antibiotic use, as well as human trafficking and labor violations, all tied to shrimp aquaculture.
From an environmental perspective, says Brune, "Most U.S. shrimp growers are operating at zero or near zero discharge, and aren't polluting a body of water, since U.S. laws don't allow for water discharge. And most, if not all, do not use chemicals or antibiotics."
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Getting your shrimp fresh, not frozen, makes a big difference in flavor and texture, and there are environmental and economic benefits that come from supporting community farming models. But for most consumers, price plays a big role in purchasing decisions. Buying local is an important consideration, but not everyone will be able to afford these shrimp. As Brune points out, "Imported seafood is at a $1 to $2 a pound production cost. If we go to indoor systems, we're talking about $3 to $5 a pound production cost. If people pay $8 a pound for shrimp, a local grower can't compete with that, as they're charging around $20 a pound. People have to make a decision to pay a higher price for a local product if these guys are to survive."
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:56 am to ragincajun03
I have not seen indoor pools but have seen outdoor shrimp ponds on Oahu.
So it stands to reason that there could be a fish farm in a flooded basement somewhere in St. Louis.
So it stands to reason that there could be a fish farm in a flooded basement somewhere in St. Louis.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:57 am to ragincajun03
Now that's a jumbo shrimp
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:58 am to ragincajun03
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make it possible to churn out 5,000 pounds...... each year
Tyson asks "Only fibe tousan powns of skrimps a year?"

Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:01 pm to ragincajun03
They should offer swimming with sea bass
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:03 pm to ragincajun03
Look, supporting locals is cool and all but if you can’t get close to the price, we have to decide between shrimp boil or no boil…. And we having boil
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:24 pm to fareplay
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Look, supporting locals is cool
Seafood is the one thing I do not eat if its not local. I always ask restaurants before ordering seafood.. And while they supposedly have to tell you where its from, I am convinced some places are not telling the truth. I don't want shite from China, and if I can help it, I don't want crawfish from ponds. I want it to be out of their natural environments.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:28 pm to OweO
I prefer farm raised Salmon. More fatty, better taste.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:32 pm to ragincajun03
Wonder how feasible it is to do this smaller scale and have endless shrimp supply
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:34 pm to OweO
8/10 restaurants claim they have farm raised catfish, yet its actually swai from ponds in Vietnam. Lord knows what's in there.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:41 pm to ChestRockwell
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from ponds in Vietnam. Lord knows what's in there.
poo poo
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:42 pm to ChestRockwell
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8/10 restaurants claim they have farm raised catfish, yesterday its actually swai from ponds in Vietnam. Lord knows what's in there.
Asian farmers feed their fish "night soil" which is a nice way to say "sh!t."
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swai
AKA "basa." It's native to the Mekong River which gives the term "Catfish Charlie" a whole different meaning.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:43 pm to ragincajun03
quote:I am not familiar with the economics of shrimp farming, but this seems like a lot of work for not that much shrimp.
Fourteen aboveground pools of shrimp, to be exact, are flanked by an inordinate amount of hoses, buckets and fans that make it possible to churn out 5,000 pounds of Pacific white shrimp each year—700 miles from the nearest ocean.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:45 pm to ChestRockwell
Shrimpbox is a 40-foot-long cargo container containing a shrimp farm in an AI-powered, automated system where everything can be operated remotely. Shrimp can be fed and water quality can be monitored at the touch of a button, and each container can produce up to 1.5 metric tons of shrimp annually.
Located on land, the Shrimpbox uses a zero-discharge biofloc system, which means it has no adverse environmental impacts.
Russek says an ROI comparable to the Shrimpbox would require two farm acres using traditional shrimp farming techniques.
Shrimp Box
Located on land, the Shrimpbox uses a zero-discharge biofloc system, which means it has no adverse environmental impacts.
Russek says an ROI comparable to the Shrimpbox would require two farm acres using traditional shrimp farming techniques.
Shrimp Box
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:48 pm to BoogaBear
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Wonder how feasible it is to do this smaller scale and have endless shrimp supply
I'm wondering the same thing. could I do it in an above ground pool and have shrimps all year?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:48 pm to ragincajun03
“accouterments“
this made me lol
this made me lol
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:49 pm to Shexter
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make it possible to churn out 5,000 pounds...... each year
…so economically implausible?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:52 pm to ragincajun03
I've had those shrimp before and they are basically flavorless compared to gulf shrimp.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:17 pm to Itismemc
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Shrimpbox
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His aim is to manufacture each Shrimpbox for (U.S.) $25,000
Selling the equipment near cost, then make crazy profits on the consumables and royalties.
“Our business model is based on selling the equipment with a small markup, selling the shrimp larvae and shrimp feed at market price, and charging a tech royalty around 8 percent for every kilogram of shrimp sold,” he said. “This means our profits will come from real income generated by our farmers. In the current farming structure, the farmer is the last one to make money. With our business model, we want to subsidize the hardware to share the risk with the farmer.”
Am I mathing correctly here?
1.5 tons of shrimp per year = 1360 kilograms per year
1360 kilograms @ $10 per kilogram market price = $13,600
So, a $25,000 investment + consumables to only have $13,600 in sales per unit per year? (that's gross sales, not net profit after cost of supplies)
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