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Two Japanese boxers die on same card
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:39 pm
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The World Boxing Organisation (WBO) announced the death of Japanese boxer Urakawa at the age of 28 on Sunday following a bout with Yoji Saito on 2 August.
It occurred days after Shigetoshi Kotari, who fought out a draw with Yamato Hata on the same card in Tokyo, died due to injuries to his brain.
“The WBO mourns the passing of Japanese boxer Hiromasa Urakawa, who tragically succumbed to injuries sustained during his fight against Yoji Saito on August 2 at Korakuen Hall in Tokyo,” a WBO statement read.
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Hiromasa Urakawa. Photograph: facebook
“This heartbreaking news comes just days after the passing of Shigetoshi Kotari, who died from injuries suffered in his fight on the same card. We extend our deepest condolences to the families, friends, and the Japanese boxing community during this incredibly difficult time.”
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:53 pm to Jim Rockford
I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
Perhaps the 4oz gloves are the reason? If you get cracked with those, you're going out and the fight is over.
With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
Perhaps the 4oz gloves are the reason? If you get cracked with those, you're going out and the fight is over.
With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:12 pm to Jack Ruby
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With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
That seems to be the conensus.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:12 pm to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
Boxers take way more hits to the head during fights than MMA fighters do. It is brutal. In MMA if you just stun your opponent you will probably win. A boxer can be stunned many times throughout a fight and continue to receive a beating for 12 rounds.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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Jack Ruby
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I don't understand
Not surprised
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:39 am to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
I'm very far from a fight guy, but this has been known for decades and I'm sure played a part in the massive decline of boxing.
Getting knocked out (while not good for you), is way better then getting consistently pummeled in the head.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:56 am to Jim Rockford
But people want to accuse Power Slap of being unsafe. Idiots.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:32 am to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
It’s pretty simple. In MMA, just about every time a guy gets cracked hard enough to get dropped, either the fight gets stopped right there or the opponent goes to the ground and finishes it with strikes or a submission. In boxing, you’re given time to “recover” and get back to your feet, where it can happen again and again. Receiving multiple concussions back to back like that is horrific for your brain.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:34 am to Jack Ruby
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Perhaps the 4oz gloves are the reason? If you get cracked with those, you're going out and the fight is over.
With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
And the 10 count. You can't ignore how many people suffer minor brain damage and are allowed to go back into the fight, which amplifies the damage they take immediately thereafter.
In MMA typically when you're out, you're out and it's over. Not great, but the subsequent damage is minimal compared to boxing.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:42 am to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
There are fundamental differences between boxing and mma. Boxing is all striking with the head being a likely target. As such, an athlete gets more significant strikes to the head. The more padded gloves mean more ability to endure more strikes.
Also, a downed opponent gets swarmed in mma, which could lead to a quicker finish, as opposed to a boxer getting time to recover.
It’s all about repeated head trauma and there’s more of that in boxing
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:49 am to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
Boxers get pounded on for 12 rounds and if they get in trouble they can take a knee and get a 8 count and then get pounded on some more.
In mma if someone gets dropped or in trouble they get beat on until the fight is stopped so it’s not quite the prolonged beating like in boxing.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 8:51 am
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:51 am to Jim Rockford
Sum Ting Wong
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:52 am to Jack Ruby
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Perhaps the 4oz gloves are the reason? If you get cracked with those, you're going out and the fight is over.
With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
This def. seems like the reason. Getting hit really hard 2-3 times and the fight being over is way less dangerous than getting hit 200 times with slightly less hard blows.
I've noticed these boxing deaths are almost always in lower weight divisions as well, for likely the same reason. The blows aren't quite as powerful so dudes can manage to hang in there and receive a ton of punishment but take serious damage.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:00 am to tzimme4
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But people want to accuse Power Slap of being unsafe. Idiots.
You watch that shite?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:13 am to shutterspeed
The 10 count knockdown is a huge deal. You get knocked down in MMA the fight is usually over.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:29 am to StansberryRules
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I've noticed these boxing deaths are almost always in lower weight divisions as well, for likely the same reason. The blows aren't quite as powerful so dudes can manage to hang in there and receive a ton of punishment but take serious damage
It'll happen at some point, a heel to the temple or someone hitting their head weird on the canvas will be the moment for MMA
I think more likely to see a series of suicides in MMA than we are to see someone die in the ring. Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway, Nate Diaz, Wanderlei Silva types..Some of these guys did series damage that we haven't seen the results of yet. In Edgars final 8 fights he was KO'd 5 Times (1 TKO) and had 3 decisions.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:33 pm to Underwood
Same way OLs get CTE without ever getting a concussion. Multiple subconcussive blows can be worse than getting knocked cold.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:39 pm to Jack Ruby
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I don't understand how boxers die every year, yet there seems to never be any deaths in MMA.
really? MMA has been known to be safer than boxing for decades. MMA guys dont get repeated shots to the head like boxers. When boxers get knocked down (and likely concussed) they can get back up and keep going. When MMA gets knocked down, fights over.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:50 pm to Jack Ruby
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Perhaps the 4oz gloves are the reason? If you get cracked with those, you're going out and the fight is over. With 12-16oz gloves, I guess you can keep getting bludgeoned without the fight being stopped.
I think that’s exactly it.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:29 pm to shutterspeed
Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 professional fights. Add to that all of the sparring and his amateur career, approximately 85 bouts. It is amazing that he could still function after all of the damage he received.
There were many more old school fighters with a ton of fights. Boxers oftentimes fought every couple of weeks or so back then.
There were many more old school fighters with a ton of fights. Boxers oftentimes fought every couple of weeks or so back then.
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