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Why India hasn't rushed into a trade deal

Posted on 7/30/25 at 11:37 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1415 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 11:37 pm
CNBC

A long article but pretty interesting
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Even as the U.S. announced deals with other countries, such as with Japan that addressed sticking points on greater market access for American autos and agricultural products, India did not rush into an agreement.

The country has resisted larger market access for American agricultural products to protect its local farmers, who form a sizable voting bloc. In its trade deal with the U.K., signed last week, India managed to safeguard its most sensitive agricultural sectors from tariff concessions.

India is not “backing off” because their exports to the U.S. constitute a small part of their economy and it cannot afford to open its agricultural sector to U.S. companies, said Carlos Casanova, senior economist at UBP. America’s goods imports from India totaled $87.4 billion in 2024, according to U.S. government data.

India’s Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal in an interview with CNBC last week signaled that the relaxing entry barriers for the sector could be a problem.

“We are always very sensitive to the interests of our farmers, the interests of our [Micro, Small, and Medium Enterprises], and will ensure that our areas of concern are well protected,” Goyal said.

He reportedly said Sunday that India does not negotiate its trade agreements based on deadlines, and while a deal was preferable, New Delhi would put its national interest first. “I am fully confident that by the October-November 2025 timeline, we will secure a good agreement,” Goyal said, according to The Economic Times.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83055 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:20 am to
We're not interested in their chief export which is disgusting street food
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2847 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:30 am to
The Trump administration should figure out a way to target their services sector (call centers, etc.).
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 5:31 am
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9466 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:27 am to
India was a huge beneficiary of the offshoring of US jobs during the 2000’s

India smartly took advantage of American universities during the same era … sending millions of its citizens to be educated in the US before returning to India and raising families.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4489 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:52 am to
India and Russia is a weird bromance between democracy and communism but they stood with each other in tough times and I can say they will not stop importing Russian oil. They are always first preference for each other

It also doesn’t help that US needs Pakistan for entry into Afghanistan. So India will not rush or push into this deal. Elections are coming and farmers won’t like importing any agri from outside.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 6:54 am
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1415 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:58 am to
Would agree.
While we're dealing with India this H-1B visa program needs to be tightened up or eliminated all together.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:49 am to
Their reciprocal tariff rate effective tomorrow is General Duty % + 25% Reciprocal up from General Duty % + 10% Reciprocal.

I don't think it will have any amount of impact on number of imports out of India.

People have been fleeing China for India as an alternative source and China +1 strategy. India is really good at anything industrial.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2980 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 9:51 am to
The Trump administration should figure out a way to target their services sector (call centers, etc.).
_______

Fewer call centers in India is something I could support.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9651 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 9:54 am to
Easier explanation…


Modi’s narcissism is almost on par with Trump’s.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42789 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Would agree.
While we're dealing with India this H-1B visa program needs to be tightened up or eliminated all together.


Bingo eliminate that shite yesterday.
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2754 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:17 pm to
I don’t think we necessarily eliminate but it’s an incredible bargaining chip. Has to be some tariff related charges that can level the playing field here.

I contract H1-B for my company in the software space and the amount that makes it to their pockets vs what we pay the suppliers is astounding.


For example I pay $150/hr for SAP consultant. Breakdown is as follows:
20% to supplier with MSA = $30/hr
20% of remaining to H1-B sponsor employer = 24/hr

Out of the $150/hr they are seeing 96/hr or 65% of what we’re willing to pay.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
A lot of my Indian friends here in Cali seem to like Modi.

I don’t know much about him
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34458 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:21 am to
quote:

For example I pay $150/hr for SAP consultant. Breakdown is as follows:
20% to supplier with MSA = $30/hr
20% of remaining to H1-B sponsor employer = 24/hr

Out of the $150/hr they are seeing 96/hr or 65% of what we’re willing to pay.


What kind of SAP consultancy?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31433 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 10:01 am to
quote:

A lot of my Indian friends here in Cali seem to like Modi. I don’t know much about him

Modi is a corrupt authoritarian-adjacent bastard, but he’s also a hardcore Indo-Hindu ethno-nationalist. For a lot of people, and especially expats who don’t really have to deal with the negatives, the rhetoric around bringing India back to its roots to return to the glory days of history is very attractive.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 12:32 pm to
Wouldn’t it be logical to assume that most Indian immigrants in America are educated and cosmopolitan and turned off by Modi’s blood and soil worldview?

We know for example that college educated Americans don’t like trump’s blood and soil ideology.

So why do wealthy Indians who leave for America like Modi’s nationalism?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31433 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t it be logical to assume that most Indian immigrants in America are educated and cosmopolitan and turned off by Modi’s blood and soil worldview? We know for example that college educated Americans don’t like trump’s blood and soil ideology. So why do wealthy Indians who leave for America like Modi’s nationalism?

America is still the world’s premier superpower while India is an also-ran third world backwater. Wealthy educated Indians don’t like being considered third worlders. They also feel a very keen threat from Muslim Indians, which might be an even larger cultural conflict than Islam and Christianity.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2073 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 4:38 pm to
I sat in an office with a first generation American Indian for 3 years, she described India as truly third world...still live by the caste system, arranged marriages with dowry, tons of poverty and hugely over crowded in areas...her family was very wealthy so it didn't impact her when her parents brought her there to visit family, and she says US born Indians really are not fans
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4489 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:31 pm to
Indians are very political party identity driven. No matter how educated you are, they will support the same party that their family supported and add caste system to it. Most political parties are caste affiliated. My dad wouldn’t vote against his political party even if they affected him financially. That’s how strong caste affiliation is.

Indian born Americans who haven’t stepped foot or lived through caste system wouldn’t understand it. I wouldn’t take their word. In Dallas and NJ, they organize caste summits. CRAZY

It might contradict lot of views here. India has lot poverty but people with wealth live extremely lavish lifestyle. They live expat lifestyle within their own country. My parents live in a community where they don’t even have to step out of the four walls. Grocery, maids, house get mopped clean twice a day.

It is sad though that some Indians bad mouth the hand that feeds them. US is definitely one of the major hand that feeds them. Wish US had better geo political relations with India.
Media doesn’t help. Always spewing stuff that gets clicks.

This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted by NoEmpathy
Member since Feb 2023
72 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:41 pm to
India is a fricking dump. Trash everywhere. Over a billion gallons of raw sewage are dumped into the Ganges River daily, and people still bath in it because it is considered “sacred”. Wanna know why we have super bugs and antibx resistance? Look no further than India. Caste system is alive and well. It’s one of those places western women that travel are advised to avoid because rape is commonplace. When I lived in the Bay Area (tons of Indians) 3 out of every 4 marriages were arranged and the women were miserable.

That being said, because they are third world they are also hungry. They thrive in STEM fields. In the Bay Area alone prob half the MD’s and Tech Bros are Indian, maybe more. It’s a shame India as a nation cannot get its shite together because it has a ton of potential and a common enemy with the US in China
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