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Why don't the Bengals cut ties with Shemir Stewart and just sign Hendrickson to a deal?

Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:10 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:10 am
I mean if the Bengals let a very proven guy in Hendrickson walk because they don't want to pay him the asking price for his skills especially since he was the only thing positive last year on defense. Looks this Shemir Stewart is not betting on himself to stay straight with his well if I get in trouble I still want to get paid shenanigans. It's a win if they sign Trey Hendrickson anyway. I still can't believe the Bengals paid Higgins. SMH
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19468 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:17 am to
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Looks this Shemir Stewart is not betting on himself to stay straight with his well if I get in trouble I still want to get paid shenanigans.

My understanding is he is the first player that is being asked to sign that contract. He is 1 of 1 player. They aren’t asking anyone else on any team to agree to these clauses. He is basically saying “Why am I the first? Why not give me the same contract as every other NFL player.”
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 1:18 am
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15883 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:28 am to
Shemar Stewart has every right to be mad

If you worked at a company with 500 people, 499 got a certain contract and you were the only one different, you would be pissed
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9667 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:57 am to
Bengals are a terribly ran franchise. They rank last or close to last every year when they do the player surveys.

They should sign Hendrickson and Stewart.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 1:58 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:47 am to
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Looks this Shemir Stewart is not betting on himself to stay straight with his well if I get in trouble I still want to get paid shenanigans.


You sucked down every bit of Mike Brown's hypothetical. I have to admit framing the situation that way was lucky (Brown ain't no genius) because you can look at the first thread here on this and see getting paid while sitting in jail dominated the thread. If I were Stewart and AFAIK has had no issues with the law I would be even more adamant after those comments. Casual watchers think Shemir is just refusing to sign some sort of no-thugging rider.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7930 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 3:00 am to
Bc he’s 31 and wants a 4 year deal
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1356 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:08 am to
Hard to turn down $18M, but I would be considering going into next year draft and away from this ownership group.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27120 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:25 am to
The real question is why pick Stewart?

You think he's a knucklehead and his college production was poor.

It seems like there is a disconnect between player personnel and ownership.

As far as Hendrickson goes, I'm guessing the Bengals think he's too old for that deal, but sometimes you just have to eat the money long term to win now. Nearly every team does it. Don't take these Burrow, Chase, and Higgins years for granted.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:50 am to
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the Bengals let a very proven guy in Hendrickson walk because they don't want to pay him the asking price for his skills especially since he was the only thing positive last year on defense.


Trey stats inflated because the Bengals offense scores a lot of points,, I read somewhere Trey only had two 3rd down sacks.,, other teams force to pass the ball on early downs to match the Bengals scoring.,, a bunch of sacks on first down not as impactful as one would think
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
12869 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:08 am to
My question is why pick Stewart if you knew this is how ya’ll were going to go about things? You already knew he was the ultimate boom or bust prospect. And you have a defense that clearly needs guys that can make an impact day one. Doesn’t make sense.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:19 am to
For some reason he and his agent don’t have faith that he can avoid doing something stupid so they don’t want to sign it

Don’t know why these players have so much trouble with just shutting their mouth and playing ball.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:34 am to
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The real question is why pick Stewart?

You think he's a knucklehead and his college production was poor.

It isnt a Stewart thing, they tried to put the same language in their first round picks' contracts the past 2 years, they just took it out during negotiations.

They have a cheap owner/owners so it makes sense they wanna be able to void guaranteed money.

If they can void a guy that isnt playing well for their social media getting hacked and/or posting something stupid it could save them a lot of money in the future. They are basically just trying to get this added now so it will be the basis for future contract wording.

Seems like bad timing to do it during your only championship window though where you desperately need defense.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 7:58 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:58 am to
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for their social media getting hacked


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They have a cheap owner/owners so it makes sense they wanna be able to void guaranteed money.

Interesting way of wording it lol
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:20 am to
Why don't the Bengals cut ties with a cost controlled asset and just pay a now pissed off asset top 5 type money.

Hm.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9926 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:31 am to
For the situation with Stewart, both parties (Brown and Stewart's agent) are being ridiculous. If both sides want to sign, and the Bengals are insistent on this clause, why not work together and make a "No-No List" of shite that can void the guaranteed money? Either that, or move some of the back-end loaded guaranteed money to the first year or two of his contract to help convince him to sign that clause.

When it comes to Hendrickson, he'll be on the field Week 1 in my opinion. He has offered to take less money, but wants a certain amount guaranteed. In his case, the Bengals are being cheap as hell like always... That said, he wants to play and Brown thinks they are close on terms despite Hendrickson laying out that he is looking for more guaranteed yesterday.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:44 am to
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why not work together and make a "No-No List" of shite that can void the guaranteed money?

Ambiguity is better for ownership because they can afford better lawyers/dragging things out in court.

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if Player makes any public comment, including but not limited to the newspaper, magazines, television, radio, social media or internet that breaches Player's obligation of loyalty to Club and/or undermines the public's respect for the Club, Club coaches, or Club management

Could fit pretty much anything someone says.

If they post rap lyrics on instagram does that undermine old guys that hate rap's respect for the club?

It the team says it does it would be on the player to take them to court to get his money.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:50 am to
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Don’t know why these players have so much trouble with just shutting their mouth and playing ball.

They have mandatory press appearances. Were you not around during Marshawn Lynch's "I'm just here so I dont get fined"?
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9926 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:09 am to
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Ambiguity is better for ownership because they can afford better lawyers/dragging things out in court.


Oh, no doubt. Organizations will always stand on ambiguity until the employee's agent negotiates against it (in this case).

I'm not arguing that the clause makes sense for all parties. Rather, I am arguing that the two sides in the negotiation need to quit being stubborn and actually negotiate.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40764 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:11 am to
Outside the fact that you're wrong on why Stewart isn't signing, it isn't a "you can only sign one of them" situation. Also, you don't cut ties with your first round pick before they ever play a snap. The Bengals are idiots.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37050 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:34 am to
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For some reason he and his agent don’t have faith that he can avoid doing something stupid so they don’t want to sign it


Why are you always so confused lol
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