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This article is pretty damning - Inside Draft Night - Shamit
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:34 am
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From that moment on, text after text rolled in from league execs, agents, and friends. The friends were simply conducting a wellness check. The execs and agents? They were less friendly.
”That is the worst draft trade I have seen in over a decade,” one Eastern Conference executive lamented.
“They should all be fired next year when that becomes a top 5 pick,” relayed another.
One after another— it was a ruthless bombardment. ”Are they not aware of how good that pick is gonna be?” This line of questioning from one high level executive left me searching for answers across the next few days. Here is what I was able to dig up.
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The league wide skepticism on the Pelicans started when Joe Dumars was named the head of basketball operations and only grew when Troy Weaver was brought into the fold. When the Pelicans traveled up to Chicago for the NBA Draft Combine a month prior, the league had already placed a target on their back.
”Man they were killing them up there,” one agent told me, referring to rival front offices. “They think they (the Pelicans) got F—in idiots in charge. It got so bad, I just felt sorry.” Teams were already jockeying for the privilege to conduct the first trade with the Pelicans as more than one executive jokingly expressed to me that the Pelicans are going to be their first call.
It was the Indiana Pacers that ended up gaining the privilege of being first. When the Pelicans traded the lightly protected 2026 pick from the Pacers for the rights to pick 23 in this draft, rival executives raised their eyebrows. What was the rush to conduct this move while the Pacers were still in the finals? Just hours after Shams broke the trade, the Pacers announced Haliburton has been diagnosed with a calf strain. The optics pointed to a team that had been duped.
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One Eastern executive with knowledge of how the conversation went from Atlanta’s perspective described a perplexing scene. When Senior Vice President Troy Weaver made the call to Atlanta’s Bryson Graham, Graham couldn’t believe what was actually being offered. Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back. But the Pelicans persisted and the Hawks got their steal.
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:38 am to CP3forMVP
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One Eastern executive with knowledge of how the conversation went from Atlanta’s perspective described a perplexing scene. When Senior Vice President Troy Weaver made the call to Atlanta’s Bryson Graham, Graham couldn’t believe what was actually being offered. Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back. But the Pelicans persisted and the Hawks got their steal.
I read this this morning and just shook my head.
First of all...its clearly Graham telling Shamit this. It makes them look good and the Pelicans like complete idiots.
If its true, it is incredibly damning.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:41 am to CP3forMVP
Sell the team, all that’s left to say.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:51 am to CP3forMVP
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They think they (the Pelicans) got F—in idiots in charge.
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One league executive would tell me their internal models valued the traded pick as having the second highest probability for becoming number one overall next season.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 8:55 am
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:52 am to CP3forMVP
No one with a brain needed to read that to confirm all of that.
It's comical at this point how inept the people running this organization is and have been for quite some time.
I've been saying it for some time now, Grandma needs to sell the team, both teams, so that a group that actually knows what the frick is going on can hire the right management team.
It's comical at this point how inept the people running this organization is and have been for quite some time.
I've been saying it for some time now, Grandma needs to sell the team, both teams, so that a group that actually knows what the frick is going on can hire the right management team.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:54 am to CP3forMVP
Dumars should be fired immediately. There's no sense to wait until next year to see how it plays out while allowing him to make other decisions that will cripple this team's future.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:55 am to TeddyPadillac
There goes my last shred of hope. I can’t believe it has gotten worse than Griffin. I would legit beg for griff back at this point.
The only bright side is that Dumars might be so bad that it forces Gayle to sell the team
The only bright side is that Dumars might be so bad that it forces Gayle to sell the team
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:56 am to CP3forMVP
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Teams were already jockeying for the privilege to conduct the first trade with the Pelicans as more than one executive jokingly expressed to me that the Pelicans are going to be their first call.
Is that bad? That sounds bad.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:58 am to CP3forMVP
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In totality, the Pelicans traded away three shots at top 10 pick for the 13th overall pick. All three shots featured a team with a starting point guard who had suffered a torn Achilles.
Well when you put it like that…
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:05 am to CP3forMVP
This is what happens when you combine incompetence and falling in love with a player
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:07 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Is that bad? That sounds bad.
The Saints are no different, Howie Roseman fleeced Loomis multiple times in acquiring talent for his Super Bowl.
Sell the teams do it now.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:09 am to CP3forMVP
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Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back.
If you are receiving multiple “Are you sure?” questions you might want to reconsider. But hey, Joe is “one of us!”. Those one of us hires who had success 20 years ago usually goes great.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:10 am to CP3forMVP
How does a serious team even let an article like this even get written with no rebuttal?
Even if this story is 100% fake/false (likely plenty of truth), a real organization should come out vehemenytly against it just to not look like complete clowns
Even if this story is 100% fake/false (likely plenty of truth), a real organization should come out vehemenytly against it just to not look like complete clowns
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:16 am to CP3forMVP
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“They should all be fired next year when that becomes a top 5 pick,” relayed another.
What should they do if Queen is all-rookie 1st team and the pick ends up out of the lottery?
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One Eastern executive with knowledge of how the conversation went from Atlanta’s perspective described a perplexing scene. When Senior Vice President Troy Weaver made the call to Atlanta’s Bryson Graham, Graham couldn’t believe what was actually being offered. Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back. But the Pelicans persisted and the Hawks got their steal.
I love the faux elitism. They are all so brilliant. Over half the teams in the league are run horribly, but now they all know what they are doing and going to point fingers at our leadership. The funniest part about this now is the darling of all the analysts are the Hawks. They are trying to sell them as this year's dark horse pick of making a major run. Not a run at the play in. A top 4 seed and a run to the conference championship. They are just as big of a question mark as we are..
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:19 am to Fun Bunch
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First of all...its clearly Graham telling Shamit this. It makes them look good and the Pelicans like complete idiots.
It also changes the narrative of what everyone thought likely happen in that Graham said no deal until they got the unprotected pick, but this makes it sound like we were the morons offering it up before it even needed to be offered up.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:22 am to TeddyPadillac
Grahams record is certainly not stellar. He contributed to our current debacle
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:26 am to brmark70816
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What should they do if Queen is all-rookie 1st team and the pick ends up out of the lottery?
Run to the nearest bodega and buy a Powerball ticket, because they're on a heater.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:30 am to Galactic Inquisitor
The whole Pacers draft pick thing is a completely ridiculous hindsight lazy take. That trade was done while the Pacers were in the finals with a young team that everyone thought would be competitive next year. Absolutely no one knew Hailburton was going to blow his Achilles out before the game. To say that trade is completely terrible is total BS.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:34 am to Mad Scientist26
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The whole Pacers draft pick thing is a completely ridiculous hindsight lazy take. That trade was done while the Pacers were in the finals with a young team that everyone thought would be competitive next year. Absolutely no one knew Hailburton was going to blow his Achilles out before the game. To say that trade is completely terrible is total BS.
That trade would have still be on the table after the finals. Dumars rushed the trade and made a fool of himself.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:37 am to CP3forMVP
This is jr high girls gossip bs! Stop following if you’re so embarrassed and fed up.
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