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NCAA denies Sacramento State's waiver to transition to FBS

Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:52 am
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13152 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:52 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:02 am to
Sounds like another lawsuit might be headed their way.

I dont see the logic in trying to stop them from moving up when so many others have done it.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
37984 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:49 am to
NCAA must enjoy getting bent in court
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
15501 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:59 am to
quote:

I dont see the logic in trying to stop them from moving up when so many others have done it.


Especially when so many conferences are being busted up and needing to add new markets. I’m not sure what Sacramento could bring TV wise but it’s got to be better than a rural state commuter or directional school, right? Seems like the rebirthed PAC 12, what’s left of the MWC, or someone would be pressing the issue for the NCAA to give them the ok to move up to FBS.
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
449 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:25 am to
Doesn’t the NCAA consider stadium capacity as a criteria for moving up to FBS status?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45901 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:40 am to
I think there may be other requirements, but a quick search came up with this...
quote:

These requirements include:

The school must sponsor 16 NCAA sports, with an average attendance of at least 15,000 for home football games, although this attendance requirement has been eliminated for new FBS schools.

The school must pay an application fee of $5 million to transition from FCS to FBS, which was increased from $5,000.

The school must provide 90% of the total allowable scholarships across 16 sports, including football, and fund 210 scholarships annually, amounting to at least $6 million.

The school must have an invitation from an FBS conference to move up.

These requirements are designed to ensure that schools transitioning to FBS are financially and structurally prepared to compete at the highest level of college football.

There's a bunch of articles and stuff I didn't feel like sifting through, but this is part of it. I think it's a little weird they're trying to move up with no invitation. With all the conference realignments, it could put them in a bad spot as I'm not sure many conferences would be eager to go after them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36048 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:45 am to
Imagine knighting for an organization like this. Bad look
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
99789 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:58 am to
My good mates and former Sac State standouts Jackson Slater and Jett Stanley both support this move.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53462 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:01 am to
It’s incredibly damning that the PAC 12 and MWC haven’t invited them when they need teams in that area
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14042 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:14 am to
the amusing thing here is that at some point 40-50 schools are going to break off and form their own power league, and all of these D1 schools who scrambled to move from FCS to FBS in football will ultimately be back where they started...in a second rate division with no access to the real money.

If I was a Sacramento State, I'd rather stay in FCS. Compete for actual NCAA championships in football. The upper levels of FCS are vastly more interesting than being the dregs of FBS.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7542 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

There's a bunch of articles and stuff I didn't feel like sifting through, but this is part of it. I think it's a little weird they're trying to move up with no invitation. With all the conference realignments, it could put them in a bad spot as I'm not sure many conferences would be eager to go after them.


An article I read also indicated the school is facing a 31 million dollar budget shortfall and are having to cut classes, but sure, let's move up and require even more funds for athletics.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
37984 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:27 am to
After the top cats break away (hopefully sooner than later) I wouldn’t be surprised to see the G5 try to form something with the top FCS leagues. Adding the Horizon, Big Sky, etc I think would be a really interesting dynamic and bring back more of the old feel of the ncaa. No it wouldn’t be the top athletes but that’s honestly fine.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9781 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:32 am to
I remember when Troy State entered the FBS, they had to increase their stadium seating capacity. Not sure what the NCAA min. requirements are, but here are some of the current FBS stadium capacities:

15,314 - Charlotte
21,000 - Coastal Carolina
22,113 - W Kentucky

21,195 - Sac State, expansion to 25,000 prior to 2028 season
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1122 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:33 am to
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The school must pay an application fee of $5 million to transition from FCS to FBS, which was increased from $5,000.


Got damn. Lawyers aint cheap.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13306 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I remember when Troy State entered the FBS, they had to increase their stadium seating capacity. Not sure what the NCAA min. requirements are, but here are some of the current FBS stadium capacities:


I was a student there at the time. I saw the plans at some point. They removed the track around the field, lowered the playing surface, and built the press box and added upper deck seating. A few years ago they expanded seating and closed in the north endzone. From what I heard, the upper deck on the visitor's side was built so that it can be removed and complete the upper deck over the south endzone when it gets to that point, and a larger upper deck to match the home side upper deck will go in its place. Capacity before expansion was either 17k or 17,500 and the initial expansion got it to 30k.
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2194 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Imagine knighting for an organization like this. Bad look


Huh?
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6257 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 1:02 pm to
As the push continues to lift Sacramento State athletics into the Pac-12 or Mountain West conference, the school obtained another critical addition to those hopes this week.

On the heels of last week’s announcement that Sacramento State will be building a new 25,000-seat football stadium, a local group of leaders called ‘The SAC 12’ announced on Monday that the group has raised $35 million in NIL funds to further aid the school’s hopes of elevating itself into the FBS.
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