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Not a Trump fan..really can’t stand him, but as a left-leaning moderate…

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:59 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:59 am
….which on this dumbass board = flaming liberal socialist commie…now would be the time to use the bunker buster. Since the IDF has ripped the lid off, Iran has only more incentive to push forward to make a nuclear weapon. We really can’t afford a religious zealot state having those weapons. The IDF has cleared the skies…but if we wait too long, the Chinese or Russians will gladly sell anti-aircraft weaponry for some cheap black market oil from Iran. Netanyahu knows that he has backed Trump into a corner on this one. I think he green lights it…and it’s the only call he can make.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:59 am to
How bout no
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:01 am to
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now would be the time to use the bunker buster.
Agreed.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:01 am to

If Iran had any other viable options, they wouldn’t be signaling that they want negotiations.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to
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which on this dumbass board = flaming liberal socialist commie…



Are you being serious with how the last ten years went?


We went from protect our borders under obama to maga is nazi scum worth death because we should have a border.


Things went south real quick with you lefties.


The physical attacks on Trump supporters from the moderate left started back in 2015.


This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to
Does Israel have bunker busters? Do other countries have bunker busters?

Why can't somebody else use a fricking bunker buster? Why does it have to be us?

frick all that. Listen to yourself. This is not our fricking war but if you want to rah rah it on, tell OTHER PEOPLE who are fricking over there already to use their bunker busters.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to
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If Iran had any other viable options, they wouldn’t be signaling that they want negotiations.


Agreed. For now…Iran is toothless.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to
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now would be the time to use the bunker buster



If they're coming to the table, let them negotiate a deal that doesn't result in Tehran being leveled.

If they are truly that down & out, then I say allow the Iranian people a chance to do whatever is necessary within their own country to deal with the folks that are trying to get their country glassed.

So long as they stay in their own borders, stop funding radical Islamic terrorists abroad and no nukes - it's none of our concern.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 11:04 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to
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Does Israel have bunker busters?


No. That’s why they are returning to us. My guess is we have them, NATO has them, Russia and China has them, but I doubt many other countries have that technology.
Posted by Feelthebarn
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to
Nobody else has both a plane big enough to carry them and the actual ordinance
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:04 am to
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If they're coming to the table, let them negotiate a deal that doesn't result in Tehran being leveled.


If they open the doors to their facilities and let us neuter them without having to level them, then I’m all for it. But I don’t trust their words.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:07 am to
Obama deported more illegals than Trump. And… as a left leaning moderate I do think we need to secure our border. I also think we need to figure out how to legally have unskilled workers come to this country to do the jobs our people aren’t willing to do.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:08 am to
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now would be the time to use the bunker buster.


Of course it is. Agree with you. If we don't, then we should have stayed on the sidelines for the last 30 years in the Middle East.
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:09 am to
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Nobody else has both a plane big enough to carry them and the actual ordinance



Sounds like an Israel problem.
Posted by MizunoDude
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:09 am to
Let's assume that Iran has Nuclear materials and is trying or is close to having a Nuke.

Using a bunker buster to obliterate said material and or weapons creates no radioactive cloud of cast off? is it all contained at the bombed sight?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:09 am to
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which on this dumbass board = flaming liberal socialist commie


Bunker busters can only penetrate an estimated 200 feet?

Are Iran's nuclear facilities shallower or deeper than 200 feet?


ETA: just looked it up.

Natanz is only 40 feet deep. It's a good target for bunker busters.

Fordow is estimated to be 260 to 360 feet deep. That would be a waste of bunker busters.

New Underground Facility is also estimated 260 to 360 feet deep.


I bet all of the nuclear material and equipment have been moved to Natanz and the new underground facility. Bunker busters can't reach them.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 11:14 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:11 am to
Do we need to make sure Iran never gets a nuke? Absolutely. Do we need to use force to do so? Only as an absolute last resort.


For now we need to let the threat of force have its effect to force them into negotiations, which seems is exactly what is currently playing out.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:13 am to
A left-leaning war monger?

Man, your hippy parents and/or grandparents from the '60s and '70s would disown you all if they too hadn't shifted to now being the party of war.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:13 am to
Does it give you pause at all that no one else in that region other than Israel seem concerned enough about Iran to be willing to join the fight? Perhaps you believe that the other countries in the region are waiting for America to once again send their tax dollars and young lives to to die in the desert fighting for something that the other countries in the region have no interest in fighting for.
Posted by Batiger53
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:13 am to
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