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Iran and the narrative
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:24 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:24 am
Im curious, does this board really 100% believe the narrative we are told about Iran? If just hearing this question makes you irrationally angry at me for asking it...shouldnt that be a red flag that we have been programmed to hate these people(much like Russians).
Im fully aware at what we are told:
-Iran sponsors terrorists
-Iran hates America
-Iran wants to eradicate Jews
-Iran wants to eradicate Christians
-Should Iran get nukes they will then immediately nuke Israel, no questions asked
Im also fully aware that what we are told by our media is lies more often than truth...
So im just supposed to blindly believe what more than likely is Israel's one sided narrative about Iran?
I do tend to believe that Iran has a strict Muslim government. Thats about all that I just straight up believe. Watching videos of people traveling through Iran really opened up my eyes though. These people are not savages. I want to at least hear their side of the story.
Driving Through Iran
Im fully aware at what we are told:
-Iran sponsors terrorists
-Iran hates America
-Iran wants to eradicate Jews
-Iran wants to eradicate Christians
-Should Iran get nukes they will then immediately nuke Israel, no questions asked
Im also fully aware that what we are told by our media is lies more often than truth...
So im just supposed to blindly believe what more than likely is Israel's one sided narrative about Iran?
I do tend to believe that Iran has a strict Muslim government. Thats about all that I just straight up believe. Watching videos of people traveling through Iran really opened up my eyes though. These people are not savages. I want to at least hear their side of the story.
Driving Through Iran
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:25 am
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:25 am to scottydoesntknow
So you think we've got it all wrong and that all along Iran has been the good guy?
Anyways ... downvote #1.
Btw, nobody doubts their people aren't good folks. Their government in case you weren't aware, is really shite. Do you realize their government has no problem in going out, picking scapegoats for various minor infractions and torturing them? They do this almost daily.
Anyways ... downvote #1.
Btw, nobody doubts their people aren't good folks. Their government in case you weren't aware, is really shite. Do you realize their government has no problem in going out, picking scapegoats for various minor infractions and torturing them? They do this almost daily.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:27 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:26 am to scottydoesntknow
There are many videos of Iran leadership holding events and chanting “Death to America”.
What else do you need to know?
What else do you need to know?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:27 am to theballguy
Yes, the narrative has no basis in truth. Some people man
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:27 am to theballguy
quote:
So you think we've got it all wrong and that all along Iran has been the good guy?
What a simpleton response
Was the Confederacy as bad as it was painted to be by the ones that won the war? The truth is hardly ever on the extremes
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:29 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
The truth is hardly ever on the extremes
I tend to agree with this but I think you're way off in your mischaracterization of Iran as a bullied or misunderstood state.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:30 am to TigerMan327
quote:
There are many videos of Iran leadership holding events and chanting “Death to America”.
What else do you need to know?
There are US politicians that have wanted to invade and destroy Iran. There are routinely people on this board that want the US or Israel to destroy their country with nukes(including a million+ Christians)
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:33 am to theballguy
quote:
quote:
The truth is hardly ever on the extremes
I tend to agree with this but I think you're way off in your mischaracterization of Iran as a bullied or misunderstood state.
Based off what? Have you been there...or like me, have you only ever been fed selectively edited clips and statements from their government your whole life.
This isnt a justification for the hostage crisis. Im not saying they are good. I am saying that there is a high likelihood that what weve been told ISNT the 100% truth
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:34 am to scottydoesntknow
If you know anything about Islam, you don't need the media to tell you how to feel about Iran. We don't need to "hate" them, but we can hate what they stand for, and know full well that they hate us.
I don't think this is particularly complicated.
I don't think this is particularly complicated.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:41 am to Metaloctopus
quote:
If you know anything about Islam, you don't need the media to tell you how to feel about Iran. We don't need to "hate" them, but we can hate what they stand for, and know full well that they hate us.
I don't think this is particularly complicated.
Im no fan of Islam. The Saudis are supposedly our allies yet they are much more strict than Iran about allowing Christianity. Saudis execute Christians. Iran has Christian churches and over a million Christians WITH govt representation. They even have synagogues. It was Saudis that flew planes into the twin towers...yet the narrative for these two countries is much different...I wonder why
If its not complicated...explain it to me simply
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:43 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:41 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
Im curious, does this board really 100% believe the narrative we are told about Iran?
No, just a lot of fed paid influencers. You can spot them by bringing up the invasions of Iraq and Syria. Then bring up Libya after they stopped plans for nukes.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:41 am to theballguy
quote:
Btw, nobody doubts their people aren't good folks. Their government in case you weren't aware, is really shite. Do you realize their government has no problem in going out, picking scapegoats for various minor infractions and torturing them? They do this almost daily.
Well put.
I’ve known several Iranian born people and they are all first rate, smart and well educated. We’ve also seen the images and stories about the Iranian people seeking more personal freedom from their rulers. But Iran is ruled by a self-appointed cabal of radical Islamic clerics. The people of Iran are basically under a dictatorship.
My suspicion is that Israel’s calculus is that if it can weaken the religious dictatorship, there will be another people’s revolution in Iran.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:42 am to scottydoesntknow
“Im fully aware at what we are told:
-Iran sponsors terrorists [check]
-Iran hates America [check]
-Iran wants to eradicate Jews [check]
-Iran wants to eradicate Christians [check]
-Should Iran get nukes they will then immediately nuke Israel, no questions asked [No. First they’d make about a half dozen. Then they would get a terrorist group to smuggle their oversized nucs into Israel AND one in a shipping container on a ship in NY City. Then they’d nuke Israel and us.]”
-Iran sponsors terrorists [check]
-Iran hates America [check]
-Iran wants to eradicate Jews [check]
-Iran wants to eradicate Christians [check]
-Should Iran get nukes they will then immediately nuke Israel, no questions asked [No. First they’d make about a half dozen. Then they would get a terrorist group to smuggle their oversized nucs into Israel AND one in a shipping container on a ship in NY City. Then they’d nuke Israel and us.]”
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:42 am to scottydoesntknow
Do you deny
-that Iran supported Syria...
-that iran supported Hezbollah
-that Iran supports the Houthis in Yemen
-that Iran has suppressed their own population, with aducting, torturing, and killing dissenters
Iran has a lot of blood on their hands in the region and at home. But its their leadership, not the people themselves that is the issue. Iran could have been the strength of the middle east through western style sciciety.
this isnt to say Israel (or the US for that matter) isn't without blame either, but they were always looking out for their own interest, whereas Iran is focused on destabilizing the region and destroying Israel.
-that Iran supported Syria...
-that iran supported Hezbollah
-that Iran supports the Houthis in Yemen
-that Iran has suppressed their own population, with aducting, torturing, and killing dissenters
Iran has a lot of blood on their hands in the region and at home. But its their leadership, not the people themselves that is the issue. Iran could have been the strength of the middle east through western style sciciety.
this isnt to say Israel (or the US for that matter) isn't without blame either, but they were always looking out for their own interest, whereas Iran is focused on destabilizing the region and destroying Israel.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:42 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:Then what percentage is truth? What have they been accused of wrongly?
. I am saying that there is a high likelihood that what weve been told ISNT the 100% truth
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:42 am to scottydoesntknow
I know the world would be a better place if they never had a nuclear weapon
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:45 am to scottydoesntknow
The issue is that there is no good government. Our government is just new relative to world governments. In our short existence with freedom they have already brainwashed half the population into worshiping communism and the conservative half is complacent. America is finished as a nation and it’s just a matter of time.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:46 am to scottydoesntknow
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scottydoesntknow
Are you so unexposed to people unlike yourself that you do not know anyone of Iranian/Persian descent that fled the regime? There are millions of people with first hand experience dealing with the Supreme Leader and his “Republic” likely not far from where you live who would happily share the stories of their families in and around the time of the revolution.
If “Israel’s one sided narrative” presented by “our media” is the only access you have to information on the situation perhaps it’s best to just sit this one out.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:46 am to scottydoesntknow
There are reasonable people in the Iranian population that don't support the brutal ruling regime. They have had revolts against it that were put down.
But the rulling class are maniacs that have designs on creating a new Islamic Persian Empire.
But the rulling class are maniacs that have designs on creating a new Islamic Persian Empire.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:47 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
So im just supposed to blindly believe what more than likely is Israel's one sided narrative about Iran?
THIS.
ALL narratives should be challenged -- especially this one (as should EVERY narrative be challenged these days)
I don't believe this narrative for one second. More likely -- the OPPOSITE applies, and Israel is lying.
The record: Israel is a proven disruptor, aggressor and facilitator of bloodshed and war. They never did desire peace.
Frankly, so is good ol' USA. Both abide in a "Manifest Destiny" -- a fancy term for, "I'LL TAKE WHAT I WANT BY FORCE, JUST BECAUSE." (Exactly the same historically as Britain, Germany, USSR, etal.)
quote:
These people [Iranians] are not savages.
Correct. It is those in control (as here, the EU, Canada, Aus, Chyna) who have always been the actual savages, profiteering from war and bloodshed.
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