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When it comes to illegal immigration, Los Angeles is... complicated
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:12 am
Like most of you, I'm watching the riots in L.A. with a feeling of disgust. And of course all the "California belongs to Mexico" nonsense the protestors keep chanting is based in pure historical ignorance.
But... the immigration situation there is complicated. I lived there for 28 years and I constantly marveled at the complexity of the immigration situation. You've got multi-generational families that have lived in L.A. for decades where part of the family is legal, and part is not. In most of these families, the older generations speak almost no English and the younger generation speaks almost no Spanish, The middle generation will be fluent in both languages. Most of the ones who are not legal have lived in L.A. openly and without fear of reprisal. In part the steady flow of illegal immigrants into the city is fueled by geography. It's only about 140 miles from Los Angeles to Mexico's northern border. The other driver is economic. There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal. Some Mexicans who are in the USA legally end up marrying Mexicans who aren't here legally, so that increases the complexity of the reality for the Mexican families who live there. They attend regular L.A. churches, which usually have a Spanish-only service/mass, and their English speaking children and grandchildren attend local public schools.
Add to that the fact that L.A. is majority Hispanic and it's easy to see why the ICE raids are going sideways, even without the Soros-funded agitators..
I support what Trump is trying to do to clean up the immigration mess left behind by Joe Biden, but L.A. is not like other cities.
But... the immigration situation there is complicated. I lived there for 28 years and I constantly marveled at the complexity of the immigration situation. You've got multi-generational families that have lived in L.A. for decades where part of the family is legal, and part is not. In most of these families, the older generations speak almost no English and the younger generation speaks almost no Spanish, The middle generation will be fluent in both languages. Most of the ones who are not legal have lived in L.A. openly and without fear of reprisal. In part the steady flow of illegal immigrants into the city is fueled by geography. It's only about 140 miles from Los Angeles to Mexico's northern border. The other driver is economic. There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal. Some Mexicans who are in the USA legally end up marrying Mexicans who aren't here legally, so that increases the complexity of the reality for the Mexican families who live there. They attend regular L.A. churches, which usually have a Spanish-only service/mass, and their English speaking children and grandchildren attend local public schools.
Add to that the fact that L.A. is majority Hispanic and it's easy to see why the ICE raids are going sideways, even without the Soros-funded agitators..
I support what Trump is trying to do to clean up the immigration mess left behind by Joe Biden, but L.A. is not like other cities.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:14 am to L.A.
It’s not that complicated. Does a person have citizenship or a legitimate legal reason to be here?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:14 am to L.A.
It's complicated.
But y'all still need us to help pay for the illegals free healthcare while ours is costing us an arm and a leg?
But y'all still need us to help pay for the illegals free healthcare while ours is costing us an arm and a leg?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:15 am to L.A.
You’re either illegal or not.
Nothing complicated about it. They want you to think that though so you just throw up your hands and say “It’s so complicated! Might as well do nothing.”
Congratulations on being manipulated by the propaganda and being a cuck.
Nothing complicated about it. They want you to think that though so you just throw up your hands and say “It’s so complicated! Might as well do nothing.”
Congratulations on being manipulated by the propaganda and being a cuck.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:15 am to L.A.
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but L.A. is not like other cities.
The situation has gone on too long and gotten to entangled to deport every illegal.
Just get rid of criminals, vet the ones who are working and offer a path to citizenship or long term work visa.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:16 am to L.A.
Not complicated at all. The people who broke the law need to GTFO.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:18 am to L.A.
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You've got multi-generational families that have lived in L.A. for decades where part of the family is legal, and part is not.
Sponsoring relatives is a thing.. why don't they do that? It even has a name- "chain migration".
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In most of these families, the older generations speak almost no English
That's on them.
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Most of the ones who are not legal have lived in L.A. openly and without fear of reprisal.
That's on them too.. instead of taking the blessing and working to get legal, they decided to trust the status quo.. bit them on the arse. Not our fault.
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There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal.
Slavery is illegal and this is very slave adjacent. It is economic exploitation and should not be "okay".
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:19 am to L.A.
It's not complex when you follow the law to the t.
Let industry that needs labor apply for the workforce exemption. Let em stay IF they are legally employed. But if they so much as get a misdemeanor, they are deported immediately. NO APPEALS, DELAYS, ETC ETC
Let industry that needs labor apply for the workforce exemption. Let em stay IF they are legally employed. But if they so much as get a misdemeanor, they are deported immediately. NO APPEALS, DELAYS, ETC ETC
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:19 am to SallysHuman
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Slavery is illegal and this is very slave adjacent. It is economic exploitation and should not be "okay".
This was the Democrats argument against illegal immigration for decades.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:22 am to L.A.
Is LA or California using federal money to provide services to to these people? Is this a safe launchpad for these people to move to other states illegally? Are these people committing violent crime?
I actually would be fully in favor of LA becoming its own independent city-state. Then they can ICE free and we dont have to deal with them.
I actually would be fully in favor of LA becoming its own independent city-state. Then they can ICE free and we dont have to deal with them.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:22 am to L.A.
I'm with Alex Stein on this issue.
Those that occasionally watch him like I do, know exactly what I'm talking about,
Those that occasionally watch him like I do, know exactly what I'm talking about,

Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:23 am to L.A.
It's not complicated, it's complex because of the amount of illegals there. Married to someone that's legal or not, whether they have legal family or not, if they themselves aren't legal, the will eventually have to go. That part is pretty simple.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:28 am to L.A.
Obviously it’s complicated to you. A first grader could figure this shite out your a grown arse man and can’t
I got a news flash for you, it’s pretty frickin simple
I got a news flash for you, it’s pretty frickin simple
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:28 am to LSUbest
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It's complicated.
But y'all still need us to help pay for the illegals free healthcare while ours is costing us an arm and a leg?
People defending illegal immigration can't seem to understand that the US is drowning in debt and that's a huge problem. Illegal immigrants collectively don't earn enough to pay taxes and support themselves without govt assistance. The more illegal aliens that come here, the sooner America resembles the destitute countries they left behind.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:29 am to L.A.
Legit question... Can someone obtain a marriage license if one or both individuals are illegal?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:30 am to L.A.
None of what you described is complicated. It tells me that LA has been allowing illegal migration for decades and they have built a black market economy on their backs. If you would have strictly enforced immigration laws historically you would not be in the state they are in. Lack of assimilation on their part and no desire to become legal creates the "complexity" you describe. To immigrate requires responsibility on your part which is to work within the laws of the land and to not force your culture and your home countries way of life on its legal citizens.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just get rid of criminals, vet the ones who are working and offer a path to citizenship or long term work visa.
Without welfare.
And additional taxes on employees and foreign workers.
And most importantly, end birthright citizenship.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:33 am to the808bass
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Without welfare.
Right.
But, they'll use NGOs using federal funds to supply them "welfare" anyway
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:34 am to L.A.
Sounds like a lot of people that shouldn't be voting or getting welfare. Yet the are. Fix that for us please
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