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The Coming Democratic Civil War

Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:17 am


The Coming Democratic Civil War

A civil war has broken out among the Democratic wonks. The casus belli is a new set of ideas known as the abundance agenda. Its supporters herald it as the key to prosperity for the American people and to enduring power for the liberal coalition. Its critics decry it as a scheme to infiltrate the Democratic Party by “corporate-aligned interests”; “a gambit by center-right think tank & its libertarian donors”; “an anti-government manifesto for the MAGA Right”; and the historical and moral equivalent of the “Rockefellers and Carnegies grinding workers into dust.”

The factional disputes that tear apart the left tend to involve wrenching, dramatic issues where the human stakes are clear: Gaza, policing, immigration. And so it is more than a little odd that progressive activists, columnists, and academics are now ripping one another to shreds over such seemingly arcane and technical matters as zoning rules, permitting, and the Paperwork Reduction Act.



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“We have to prove democracy still works,” Joe Biden said in his first speech to Congress. “That our government still works—and can deliver for the people.” That summer, after the Senate had approved a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill, Biden declared the mission accomplished. “Today,” he announced at the White House, “we proved that democracy can still work.”

But in the months and years that followed, an unsettling realization began to creep in. A massive law had been enacted, yet Americans did not notice any difference, because indeed, very little had changed. Biden had anticipated, after quickly signing his infrastructure bill and then two more big laws pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into manufacturing and energy, that he would spend the rest of his presidency cutting ribbons at gleaming new bridges and plants. But only a fraction of the funds Biden had authorized were spent before he began his reelection campaign, and of those, hardly any yielded concrete results.

More than two years after signing the infrastructure law, Biden was “expressing deep frustration that he can’t show off physical construction of many projects that his signature legislative accomplishments will fund,” CNN reported. The nationwide network of electric-vehicle-charging stations amounted to just 58 new stations by the time Biden left office. The average completion date for road projects, according to the nonprofit news site NOTUS, was mid-2027. The effort to bring broadband access to rural America, a centerpiece of Biden’s plan to show that he would work to help the entire country and not just the parts that had voted for him, had connected zero customers.

Rather than prove democracy still works, Biden’s experience proved the opposite.


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Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
104737 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:22 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
87124 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:26 am to
Would prefer they implode on their own without dragging us down.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29669 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:27 am to
They have allowed so many mentally ill folks to hitch to their wagon that it cannot do anything but eventually implode... I hope it is very public and very glorious when it happens...
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5637 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:27 am to
If you've ever wondered how much of an influence colleges have on shaping our politics look no further than the lefts support of Hamas.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40865 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:30 am to
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according to the nonprofit news site NOTUS


Who? I don’t even know what the hell that is.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39916 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:31 am to
It’s leftists versus liberals, and the leftists are winning.

Old school liberals are dying off.

Old school leftists have infiltrated the university system. Although they are dying off as well, they are indoctrinating their replacements.

It’s not simply America versus globalism, it is western values versus authoritarianism.

America (due to geography, and the 2nd amendment) is the last bastion of (somewhat) limited government.

Europe is in its death spiral.

Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are already gone.

That leaves just the US…on its own.

Kamala winning would have been checkmate imho.

I’m not sure how this plays out, but college kids, racking up debt, and then being given freedom from that debt bondage as long as they agree to goose-step, is a pathway that won’t end well here.

Just my .02.

Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17495 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:34 am to
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the lefts support of Hamas.


How much is support for Hamas vs dislike of Israel?

Bc i dislike Israel's influence on our govt, and i didnt learn that in college. And i dont give two shits about Hamas.

I havent seen any of these protests in real life. In photos i see Palestinian flags, and i take that to be pro Hamas. But i think there might be some quantity of anti-Israel protestors that also dont support Hamas and their bullshite.

I know when i was in college i was anti-government and anti-war, but i was patriotic and in the ROTC. College was a confusing time for me.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 8:37 am
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1540 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:36 am to
I wish nothing but the worst for those clowns ??
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37342 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:50 am to
That 'Infrastructure' money was siphoned off to import and take care of immigrants. It's a shell game up there, with the politicos feeding at the contractual monetary market trough. Between the graft and the immigrant subsidies there will be no bucks left to build anything tangible. And given DEI based management, the assumption that the Dems are even qualified enough to make it happen is highly unlikely.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
1883 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:52 am to
What happened to the Democratic Party that believed in free speech?
Posted by theballguy
tMoral compass of poliboard
Member since Oct 2011
19649 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:02 am to
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The casus belli is a new set of ideas known as the abundance agenda.


Sounds like the leftist 25.

These things sound good to their bases but never get put in place. Thank God for that.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
104737 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:08 am to
quote:

What happened to the Democratic Party that believed in free speech?


They still do, as long it is speech they agree with.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10387 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:09 am to
When a political party continues to add factions that have nothing in common to their wagon, there will usually come a time when things must be sorted out.

The Dems have no ability to compromise, so let the fireworks commence.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19793 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:09 am to
Folks should probably read the article.

Economically Abundance agenda is MAGA, plain and simple.

As some of us have been saying. Economically, MAGA is the new populist Democrat Party. So all you folks saying let them fight. Well what side are you gonna choose? The side that aligns with MAGA ideals or the progressive side?

Abundance agenda has the ability to dilute MAGA and peel away the MAGA working class. The very large part of MAGA that's now anti-capitalism and pro-government intervention. Or the MAGA movement can pull for the progressive side that's bad for America but will keep it rolling.



This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32398 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 am to
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The Coming Democratic Civil War

Panem et circenses.

The Democratic party will remain the dominant party because 90% of the Controlled Opposition GOPe has their back.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20079 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:25 am to
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College was a confusing time for me.
Sounds like real life is confusing you as well!
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:27 pm to
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The Coming Democratic Civil War


I support this, as long as real bullets are used.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43406 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:37 pm to
Israel created Hamas, the same way we created Saddam Hussan and Osama bin Laden


strawmen boogiemen
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43406 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

What happened to the Democratic Party that believed in free speech?



Bill and Hillary are the ones who came up with the idea of "hate speech"


Bill Clinton was trying to shut down AM radio
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