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Vance says India-Pakistan conflict ‘none of our business’.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:23 pm
This guy gets it.
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Vice President JD Vance suggested the U.S. will not intervene in the ongoing conflict between India and Pakistan, arguing the dust-up is "fundamentally none of our business."
"We can't control these countries," Vance told Fox News’ Martha McCallum on "The Story" Thursday. "We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business and has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:29 pm to Golfer1865
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Vance says India-Pakistan conflict ‘none of our business’.
Neither is Russia-Ukraine or Israel-Palestine.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:36 pm to Seldom Seen
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Neither is Russia-Ukraine or Israel-Palestine.
Or Israel-Iran.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:37 pm to Seldom Seen
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Neither is Russia-Ukraine or Israel-Palestine.
Bingo!
Nor Yemen for that matter
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:53 pm to Golfer1865
Mostly agree. Although these are two nuclear powers, its in the world's interest to not let it escalate to that point. But our only role should be as a mediator. No more taxpayer funded war support packages.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:54 pm to Golfer1865
Hopefully he can convince Agent Orange that Israel and Ukraine are none of our business, either.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:55 pm to Golfer1865
The only involvement from the US I would be accepting of would be offering to mediate peace as a neutral third party at Camp David.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:56 pm to Golfer1865
That’s why I voted for Trump.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:57 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:Well, to an extent.quote:
Vance says India-Pakistan conflict ‘none of our business’.
Neither is Russia-Ukraine or Israel-Palestine.
With Israel-Palestine, we have always had a close relationship with Israel, and quite often the Palestinians fighting them would also be chanting "death to America" and burning our flag in the streets. And lots of times, it was Israel (a state) vs unhappy terrorists, not another country. So when things would kick off over there, we'd usually tend to support Israel, both as an ally and as an extension of ourselves vs these terrorists.
Russia-Ukraine, this is still Cold War based. Both countries were part of the USSR (which was clearly run by Russia, but Kyiv would be a big target in a conflict). At this point, we're sorta viewing this as Russians (former Soviets) vs Ukrainians (ex Soviets), so we're helping Ukraine to see how much trouble Russia has overcoming things. It's basically an alternate reality version of the battle we feared would happen between East and West Germany, with the benefits of
a) not having any troops in the fight, and
b) the territory being fought over isn't an ally in Western Europe.
The short answer to our interest, it lets us examine the Russian capabilities without having to fight them.
India-Pakistan is really a whole different animal. We're not historically tied to them (that would be more of a British thing), and we're not really threatened by either side (although most would agree the Pakistani's are the more dangerous side, being Muslim). Nobody is over there chanting "death to America", this is purely an internal conflict.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:58 pm to gothamdawg
Yemen is different than all of the other examples. Yemen attacked our ships that are in international waters, and was preventing freedom of navigation - that is a US problem
Iran, Ukraine, Hamas, India are all not our concerns. I think Iran only becomes a us problem if they go for a nuke
Iran, Ukraine, Hamas, India are all not our concerns. I think Iran only becomes a us problem if they go for a nuke
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:04 pm to Golfer1865
Vance looks like he will be unanimous for the 48th
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:09 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Mostly agree. Although these are two nuclear powers, its in the world's interest to not let it escalate to that point. But our only role should be as a mediator
This here.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:13 pm to bad93ex
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Vance looks like he will be unanimous for the 48th
At this point, I'm way more comfortable with him at the top than anyone else. He can engage in thoughtful conversations and give you his viewpoints in a clear manner.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:38 pm to Chrome
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He can engage in thoughtful conversations and give you his viewpoints in a clear manner.
At this point I think the only way he loses would be a bunch of other reasonable & well spoken politicians emerging as competition. Which would be the best thing to happen to American politics in decades.
People are tired of word salads and -ist this -ism that
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:55 pm to Golfer1865
Vance is flat wrong. It’s everyone’s business. We have way too many ties to India for it to be none of our business.
He should have said that it isn’t anything we will get involved in from a military standpoint, but we are willing to assist in negotiating a reduction in hostilities.
He should have said that it isn’t anything we will get involved in from a military standpoint, but we are willing to assist in negotiating a reduction in hostilities.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:56 pm to Golfer1865
Damn. That dude is one of the most confident and concise public speakers I've heard in a long time. No politicking or dancing around the issue. Just a good straight answer. I look forward to voting for him in 2028.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:56 pm to Scoob
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With Israel-Palestine, we have always had a close relationship with Israel, and quite often the Palestinians fighting them would also be chanting "death to America" and burning our flag in the streets
Not sure why they do that when we militarily and financially prop up their arch enemy lol
Without our support, Israel would not be capable of doing half the stuff they do.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:59 pm to Golfer1865
I agree w/ him here
Posted on 5/9/25 at 2:18 pm to gothamdawg
quote:Ok, so let's go there...quote:
With Israel-Palestine, we have always had a close relationship with Israel, and quite often the Palestinians fighting them would also be chanting "death to America" and burning our flag in the streets
Not sure why they do that when we militarily and financially prop up their arch enemy lol
Without our support, Israel would not be capable of doing half the stuff they do.
how many of these little countries that oppress their people had Soviet aide, using AKs, Soviet (Russian) tanks, etc? I never seem to have seen anyone burning the Soviet flags in the street constantly when shite would pop off.
But with anything radical Islam, the US would be listed as public enemy #1, or 1A at lowest.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 2:23 pm to 4cubbies
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Hopefully he can convince Agent Orange that Israel and Ukraine are none of our business, either.
He had those thrown in his lap by your President Vegetable.
Tell us how you picture Joe Biden interacting with world leaders at any time in his regime.
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