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U.S. economy shrank 0.3% in the first quarter of 2025

Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:37 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:37 am
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The U.S. economy contracted in the first three months of 2025 on an import surge at the start of President Donald Trump’s second term in office as he wages a potentially costly trade war.

Gross domestic product, a sum of all the goods and services produced from January through March, fell at a 0.3% annualized pace, according to a Commerce Department report Wednesday adjusted for seasonal factors and inflation. This was the first quarter of negative growth since Q1 of 2022.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a gain of 0.4% after GDP rose by 2.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024. However, over the past day or so some Wall Street economists changed their outlook to negative growth, largely because of an unexpected rise in imports as companies and consumers sought to get ahead of the Trump tariffs implemented in early April.

Indeed, imports soared 41.3% for the quarter, driven by a 50.9% increase in goods. Imports subtract from GDP, so the contraction in growth may not be viewed as negatively given the potential for the trend to reverse in subsequent quarters. Imports took more than 5 percentage points off the headline reading. Exports rose 1.8%.

Consumer spending slowed during the period but was still positive. Personal consumption expenditures increased 1.8% for the period, the slowest quarterly gain since Q2 of 2023 and down from a 4% gain in the prior quarter. However, a separate report showed that spending was up 0.7% in March, higher than the 0.5% estimate.



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Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:40 am to
This is my shocked face.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:40 am to
Time to buy,
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:43 am to
Gotta clean the wounds before they can heal. That usually stings a bit.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:44 am to
Am I reading that we would have had ~5% growth if weren't for massive imports due to stocking up for trade war?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:48 am to
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Gotta clean the wounds before they can heal. That usually stings a bit.


Yep, short term pain for long term gain. No idea how reasonable people don't understand this.
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
2107 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:49 am to
That’s how I read it too, but could be wrong.

Additionally if they shrink the size of the fed gov I wouldn’t be shocked if GDP shrinks with it. That’s a trade off I’m willing to make.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:53 am to
When a sizable portion of your GDP is governmental waste and fraud, it is going to have some natural corrections when the fraud and corruption takes a hit.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:56 am to
It also doesn’t help when you have a fiscally liberal president for a 17th straight year
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Gross domestic product, a sum of all the goods and services produced from January through March, fell at a 0.3% annualized pace


Sounds like GDP fell by 0.075% and whoever wrote the article just doesn't realize that most other people do in fact know how to multiply.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Am I reading that we would have had ~5% growth if weren't for massive imports due to stocking up for trade war?


Actually it's the inverse of the way you read it. Massive imports to build inventory count as a negative to GDP. That part at least will be truly transitory, as opposed to the "transitory inflation" that hasn't gone away at all, even if it has finally leveled off.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:03 am to
Tariffs have consequences

Navarro needs to be lynched
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Actually it's the inverse of the way you read it. Massive imports to build inventory count as a negative to GDP. That part at least will be truly transitory, as opposed to the "transitory inflation" that hasn't gone away at all, even if it has finally leveled off.



I think you're agreeing with me?
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:06 am to
While there was an overall decrease due to trade, and that is bad, consumer spending and investments grew by 3%. While a decrease in GDP is not good, there are signs pointing to growth ahead if the tariff situation is worked out.
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:07 am to
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if the tariff situation is worked out.


imagine thinking this will happen lol.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:07 am to
Meanwhile, in China:

China eases tariffs on select US goods as Trump says Beijing will 'eat' the costs
4/30: Companies, particularly those reliant on US technologies such as pharmaceuticals and chipmakers are being discreetly informed about these exemptions, Reuters reported.
The list appears to be expanding: For instance, China recently waived tariffs on US ethane imports. This approach allows Beijing to maintain a firm public stance while offering behind-the-scenes relief. Reports emerged last week that China quietly rolled back tariffs on some US semiconductor products, easing pressure on its tech sector, along with certain US pharmaceuticals.
Yahoo Finance Link


What this means is that the "signaling" portion of negotiations to end the "trade war" (more like a serious trade skirmish) have already begun.

Nevertheless, history teaches us that recessions usually begin a few quarters after interest rates are reduced, and the timing is about right with the rate cuts last year.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:08 am to
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Yep, short term pain for long term gain. No idea how reasonable people don't understand this.


Or people expecting an instantaneous change to the trajectory of our country after being ok with or trying to explain away 4 years of destruction and bad policy
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55768 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:08 am to
quote:

if the tariff situation is worked out.

imagine thinking this will happen lol.


Agreed
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1677 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:08 am to
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Gotta clean the wounds before they can heal. That usually stings a bit.


These wounds are entirely self-inflicted.

What's really crazy is that today's numbers indicate that our total trade deficit has actually WORSENED since Trump took office.

We're now heading to a bear market, and our trade imbalance is worse today than it was on Inauguration Day. So what was it even for?

We're getting the worst of both worlds here.

This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:11 am
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
847 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:09 am to
quote:

quote:
Actually it's the inverse of the way you read it. Massive imports to build inventory count as a negative to GDP. That part at least will be truly transitory, as opposed to the "transitory inflation" that hasn't gone away at all, even if it has finally leveled off.


I think you're agreeing with me?



Hah! Yes, the tilde you had before 5% looked like a negative to my old eyes!
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