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Free Speech and Criticism of Israel

Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by PQuin
Member since Jul 2020
86 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:03 pm
David Friedman on Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens

I’m not sure if this link will work because it is to instagram, but this video is not uploaded anywhere else that I could find. David Friedman was asked specifically about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens criticizing Israel. His response was the following:

“We can’t win over the hearts and minds of antisemites, because they don’t have hearts and they don’t have minds. What we can do is deport them, we can put them in jail, we can make their lives miserable, we can cut off their funding, and that’s what the Trump administration is doing for the first time.”

Put aside your feelings about Hamas and Islamic terrorism in general. How do you feel about the idea of Americans facing these types of consequences for criticizing a foreign nation?
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
6797 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:04 pm to
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How do you feel about the idea of Americans facing these types of consequences for criticizing a foreign nation


Four bans.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29461 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:04 pm to
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deport them


quote:

Americans facing these types of consequences


Are you suggesting that American citizens are being deported?
Posted by PQuin
Member since Jul 2020
86 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Are you suggesting that American citizens are being deported?


Not saying that has happened yet, but he is literally referring to two Americans when he gave this response.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17857 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:07 pm to
Sounds to me like he's talking about the foreign visitors here bashing our nation, causing unrest, burning our flag, etc., all the while seeking citizenship. We don't need those folks here.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13766 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:08 pm to
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“We can’t win over the hearts and minds of antisemites, because they don’t have hearts and they don’t have minds. What we can do is deport them, we can put them in jail, we can make their lives miserable, we can cut off their funding, and that’s what the Trump administration is doing for the first time.”


I'm not able to click the link at this moment, but I don't see any way this guy is talking about anyone aside from the non citizen activists that have been deported.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29461 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:08 pm to
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two Americans


And good luck deporting them... Not certain if there is even a crime that they could commit that would take away their citizenship...
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14025 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:10 pm to
Everyone needs to stop using the word antisemitism.

It’s a meaningless term that is used as some special form of racism.

It’s pointless and anyone that thinks there’s an “antisemitism” issue is no different that some dumb woke black bitch that’s in BLM saying America is a racist country.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33099 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Not certain if there is even a crime that they could commit that would take away their citizenship...

Definitely not for natural born citizens. There are limited cases where a naturalized citizen can have it revoked. But otherwise it’s only voluntary renunciation.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39330 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:13 pm to
It’s a dangerous slippery slope and these people and organizations have too much power and influence in our country. It’s anti-American to punish people for dissent or opinions regardless of who it’s for.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68357 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:14 pm to
Free speech means free speech no matter whom is being spoken about.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39536 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12234 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:18 pm to
Are we talking about American citizens or non-citizens? There's is a difference.
Posted by PQuin
Member since Jul 2020
86 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:18 pm to
This is also on top of the fact that literally any criticism of Israel now equals antisemitism. It’s the exact same woke bullshite that we’ve been hearing from the left for 15 years.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14025 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:20 pm to
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This is also on top of the fact that literally any criticism of Israel now equals antisemitism. It’s the exact same woke bullshite that we’ve been hearing from the left for 15 years.


Which is why James Lindsay calls this the “woke right”
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62026 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115564 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:24 pm to
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Sounds to me like he's talking about the foreign visitors here bashing our nation, causing unrest, burning our flag, etc., all the while seeking citizenship. We don't need those folks here.

I had about 20 foreign exchange students in my small college dorm. None of them ever bashed America. But they sure as hell bashed the people from other countries. A real conversation with an Indian:
Mukesh: 'Zach, are there any British students here? I hate the British.'
Me: 'Well, I've seen Dutch, Japanese, Iranian and Korean so far. But no Brits.'
Mukesh: 'Well, if you see one, let me know. I will kill him!'
He was deported one month later for passing bad checks. He explained when I said goodbye to him: 'I thought as long as you had checks in your checkbook, it meant you had money in your account. Father is very mad at me.'
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60245 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:38 pm to
They don't call him 'Zion Don' for no reason. His father was a major supporter of the formation of Israel through 'Israel Bonds' and other donation mechanisms in the 40's, and Trump is no different. He's even pardoned numerous Jewish criminals, including the spy Jonathn Pollard, who now lives happily in Israel.

I'll bitch to high hell if they try to implement Euro-style don't say Jew laws, but it's what it is. I no longer have to endure luggage-stealing tranny nuclear waste disposal mutants, but I guess this is the trade-off.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57335 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Put aside your feelings about Hamas and Islamic terrorism in general.


You can’t separate the two. It completely changes the issue.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
17946 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:52 pm to
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How do you feel about the idea of Americans facing these types of consequences for criticizing a foreign nation?


They are not so no answer is needed.

Deporting illegals or visitors that promote terrorism and support terrorist regimes is a good thing.
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