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Runoffs are stupid
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:36 am
Lake Charles Mayor Race. Nic Hunter clearly won with 47% of the vote. Closest competition had 27%. Now, thanks to political crap, they are headed to a runoff in what will literally be a white vs. black election. I almost feel like it's a toss up, all because of the asinine rule that you have to have 50% of the vote. And you can guarantee that they will turn it into a race issue, since this once great nation is infatuated with making things about race. So stupid.
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:38 am to TigerSooner
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Nic Hunter clearly won with 47% of the vote.
I have no dog in this fight but saying he clearly won with 47% is funny. What's asinine about requiring a majority to win? Majority rules. They teach you this in kindergarten.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:40 am to TigerSooner
I don't know about this.
I can see a lot of mischief done with fake candidates if you eliminated runoffs.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:42 am to TigerSooner
Jungle primary > party primary
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:42 am to TokenLiberal
It was set up to fail to begin with. There were 4 candidates. The remaining 26% of the vote was split between the other 2 candidates. Meaning Nic Hunter clearly got majority vote among the 4 candidates.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:43 am to TigerSooner
Disagree.
Win with 50% +1.
Win with 50% +1.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:43 am to TokenLiberal
Runoffs typically lead to less turnout in the later bout, particularly for a candidate who had a big lead the first round since its presumed they will win
Also a waste of resources holding multiple elections
Also a waste of resources holding multiple elections
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:44 am to TokenLiberal
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I have no dog in this fight but saying he clearly won with 47% is funny. What's asinine about requiring a majority to win? Majority rules. They teach you this in kindergarten.
What OP is ignoring is that the only reason it was that big of a gap over #2 was because multiple DEMa ran and split the vote.
If there was a primary system for this election it would still end up Hunter v. Semien
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:44 am to TigerSooner
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Meaning Nic Hunter clearly got majority vote among the 4 candidates
Plurality
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:00 am to TigerSooner
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Lake Charles Mayor Race. Nic Hunter clearly won with 47% of the vote. Closest competition had 27%. Now, thanks to political crap, they are headed to a runoff in what will literally be a white vs. black election. I almost feel like it's a toss up, all because of the asinine rule that you have to have 50% of the vote. And you can guarantee that they will turn it into a race issue, since this once great nation is infatuated with making things about race. So stupid
Then you have a closed primary and 2 candidates on Election Day. Same difference 99% of the time since we are a 2 party system.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:18 am to TigerSooner
What about when the primary comes up 36%-33%-25%-4%-2%? You're happy with 36% winning?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:27 am to TokenLiberal
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. What's asinine about requiring a majority to win? Majority rules.
Lincoln , Clinton, and Trump never got a majority of the popular vote, they won the presidency with a plurality
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:32 am to TigerSooner
Do you want democrats to win elections in areas that go 70% republican because only one democrat ran while the republican vote got split between 3 or 4 candidates? Because thats what will happen.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:35 am to TigerintheNO
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Lincoln , Clinton, and Trump never got a majority of the popular vote, they won the presidency with a plurality
So break up the City of Lake Charles into districts with electoral votes?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is why Dems prefer this kind of system. Like ranked choice, it gives the losers a second vote in the election to add to somebody else if their candidate loses.
the only reason it was that big of a gap over #2 was because multiple DEMa ran and split the vote.
It shouldn't be this way.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:39 pm to MasterDigger
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This is why Dems prefer this kind of system. Like ranked choice, it gives the losers a second vote in the election to add to somebody else if their candidate loses.
The jungle primary replaces party primaries and is superior to party primaries. And there is no "adding someone else" as there isn't a party primary.
There is no partisanship in a jungle primary.
And ranked-choice voting is about eliminating wasted votes. It's an entirely different system for an entirely different variable.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:13 pm to TigerSooner
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Meaning Nic Hunter clearly got majority vote among the 4 candidates.
Someone doesn’t know what majority means
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:15 pm to FutureMikeVIII
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Meaning Nic Hunter clearly got majority vote among the 4 candidates.
Someone doesn’t know what majority means
Civic 101,, in Middle School if not American Govt in Elemtry
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:16 pm to TigerintheNO
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Lincoln , Clinton, and Trump never got a majority of the popular vote, they won the presidency with a plurality
They won a majority of electoral votes, genius
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:25 pm to TigerSooner
I wonder if Jon Bel would have been elected if LA had ranked choice. There are flaws with every counting method.
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