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What is your measuring stick for a successful hire?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:08 pm
It doesn't matter which sport we talk about. To me, any coach that wins a national championship at LSU is a successful hire (assuming that season doesn't get vacated by sanctions). Any coach that lasts for 10+ seasons would probably be considered a good hire. In between those 2, less than 10 years, but multiple conference championships I would probably approve of.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:21 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Really depends on how you define success
O was hired because we had a ton of talent and Les couldn’t get out of his own way.
O was tasked with winning a NC before the wheels fell off and he did.
From that perspective it was a very successful hire.
Mission Accomplished.
And you know that’s fine. Flags fly forever. Sometimes
you gotta push your chips to the middle and go all in.
The issue with successful hires is eventually you gotta decide on an extension.
and there are a lot of
meh extensions.
O was hired because we had a ton of talent and Les couldn’t get out of his own way.
O was tasked with winning a NC before the wheels fell off and he did.
From that perspective it was a very successful hire.
Mission Accomplished.
And you know that’s fine. Flags fly forever. Sometimes
you gotta push your chips to the middle and go all in.
The issue with successful hires is eventually you gotta decide on an extension.
and there are a lot of
meh extensions.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:49 pm to SammyTiger
I agree there are a lot of variables, but I task you to create a list of boxes that if any single box gets checked, no matter what, it was a successful hire. Win a NC in year one then get fired for robbing a bank, successful hire.
I don't think an LSU coach in a major sport makes it through 10 seasons with a bunch of meh extensions. 10 seasons as a non-revenue sport coach means they didn't do anything stupid and didn't have to waste a bunch of money on an early buyout
I don't think an LSU coach in a major sport makes it through 10 seasons with a bunch of meh extensions. 10 seasons as a non-revenue sport coach means they didn't do anything stupid and didn't have to waste a bunch of money on an early buyout
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:52 pm to CubsFanBudMan
I think some of it can be sport-specific and maybe even situation-specific. For instance, I think in MBB it is a final-four appearance so I consider Brady a successful hire because of the situation he came into plus the final-four run.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:09 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
O was tasked with winning a NC before the wheels fell off and he did.
I don’t think that was the plan, lol. Winning a championship of course, but not having the wheels fall off.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:36 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Someone that is proven yet under 50
Can sell the program & brings energy
X’s and O’s guy
Can sell the program & brings energy
X’s and O’s guy
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:46 pm to lsusteve1
Those are day one measurable. What happens if that coach never finishes a season over 500 and is fired after year 3? That's not a successful hire.
Was Bruce Pearl a successful hire for Tenn? He got them put on probation. At this point I would say he's a successful hire for Auburn, as long as they don't end up on probation.
Was Bruce Pearl a successful hire for Tenn? He got them put on probation. At this point I would say he's a successful hire for Auburn, as long as they don't end up on probation.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:27 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Blame Coach O for the 36 scholarships he left us
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:31 pm to CubsFanBudMan
You should be our AD.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:21 am to CubsFanBudMan
quote:
What is your measuring stick for a successful hire?
Not getting the football team in trouble
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:57 am to CubsFanBudMan
Having a shot at a national championship on a fairly consistent basis
i.e making the postseason
It’s not too much to ask
i.e making the postseason
It’s not too much to ask
Posted on 3/21/25 at 1:23 am to CubsFanBudMan
I've thought about this before. It's tough to say a hire wasn't successful if they won a National Championship in my view.
Although it's a seemingly arbitrary number, I personally think a long term hire can be considered successful if they win at least 1 National Championship every 5 years.
Just my opinion.

Although it's a seemingly arbitrary number, I personally think a long term hire can be considered successful if they win at least 1 National Championship every 5 years.
Just my opinion.

Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:02 am to CubsFanBudMan
Most folks/fans would rather win and take chances of getting on probation than be mediocre and avoid probation.
As an example the years under MM in MBB, how much different would it had looked if they were on probation? Miss the tournament either way. Just not a good run to enjoy before.
In some industries it is said if you don’t on occasion get a warning letter from whatever is the “oversight” institution then you’re being too conservative and not operating in the “gray” zone.between compliant and non-compliant enough
As an example the years under MM in MBB, how much different would it had looked if they were on probation? Miss the tournament either way. Just not a good run to enjoy before.
In some industries it is said if you don’t on occasion get a warning letter from whatever is the “oversight” institution then you’re being too conservative and not operating in the “gray” zone.between compliant and non-compliant enough
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:03 am to CubsFanBudMan
Drake coach beating a #6.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:08 am to CubsFanBudMan
I saw this thread at the top of the board and thought CMM had been fired.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:11 pm to CubsFanBudMan
First time they fall behind they are on the hot seat. First time they lose a game, FIRE THEM! Anything less is settling for mediocracy.
-tRant
-tRant
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:15 pm to CubsFanBudMan
quote:ok, that being the case, a successful hire is getting someone who will consistently get you to the playoffs/postseason just about every year; the year you don't go is considered a failure, and there's no doubt you will be there next year.
What is your measuring stick for a successful hire?
It doesn't matter which sport we talk about.
Football, I would adjust that to 9+ wins on average with occasional playoff appearance. Simply because the numbers are different, less teams can get in so annual appearances is too steep. But with this, you need to have the team still in playoff discussion in the final month of the season.
For baseball, you expect to make the playoffs, and host a regional most of the time. Host a super regional probably half the time, although with LSU's history I would argue that hosting the super most of the time and making Omaha half the time should be the expectation.
Basketball, 20ish wins and make the NCAA tourney.
Women's BB same, although at this point you should make Elite 8 most years.
This is acceptable and successful, while not being impossible.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:17 pm to CubsFanBudMan
No doubt, graduating champions!
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:53 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Someone that demonstrates through his players that he can coach players to play defense and a solid, creative offense, very much like the Drake players have been taught,
If we get someone like that, then it is a matter of how much LSU/NIL wants to pay to win at LSU.
In basketball, unlike other sports, one or two elite players and the rest good to very good role players, can produce a high winning % team. But, the coach has to know how to use them as a team.
Not run and everybody shoot like an intramural street ball offense.
If we get someone like that, then it is a matter of how much LSU/NIL wants to pay to win at LSU.
In basketball, unlike other sports, one or two elite players and the rest good to very good role players, can produce a high winning % team. But, the coach has to know how to use them as a team.
Not run and everybody shoot like an intramural street ball offense.
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