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The NBA should seed the Lottery based on March 1 Standings

Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
3445 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:28 pm
This would stop incentivizing tanking for the final two months and at least make it fun for fans who want to see teams competing.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2825 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 4:00 pm to
Then teams would tank harder January-February. There’s really no solution because winning will never be incentivized for dogshit teams.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11221 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 4:29 pm to
Just get rid of the lottery. It's dumb. Penalize teams for obvious tanking. But constant losing will kill a franchise and its hard to recover. They will punish themselves..
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12923 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 4:33 pm to
Best solution would be an even weighted lottery. If you put together a 15 win team, you shouldn't be rewarded for it. It wouldn't be perfect since teams will still tank play in games, but it's still better than this trash product you get right now where teams purposely sit guys.
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
638 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 4:54 pm to
Agree. Keep it simple. All teams that miss the playoffs have equal odds in the lottery. Removes all incentives to tank. Often the best player in a given draft turn out to be taken mid or late lottery anyway.

If concerned about the bouncing balls rewarding a certain franchise too often, then add rule that a team that gets the number one overall pick is not eligible to get the top pick the next year or two years. Wouldn't happen often, but it's a common sense safeguard you could use.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2290 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 5:04 pm to
No matter what they try & do...the NBA regular season is pretty much a joke...and everybody knows it. Of the 3 major sports, it is BY FAR...the worst in this regard.

Regular season in NFL is MUCH better...and MLB is the best by far. You can go to a MLB regular season game...and you will see an honest effort by both sides AND...you will very likely see the normal "starting" players.

I can't imagine paying good money to attend an NBA game...no telling who is gonna play and who is gonna sit out, for one reason or another...and the effort is amazingly low...by most players. Just a horrible "product" nowadays...and I don't think they have an answer...to try & improve it.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 5:06 pm
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3328 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 5:06 pm to
Agreed. Only way is to lessen games tbh. But no way they do that with how much money they’re going to lose
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55915 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 5:19 pm to
you can't escape the tanking no matter what you do. unless you even the odds for all teams which is never gonna happen
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Best solution would be an even weighted lottery


This is how you get the Knicks drafting Ewing and the Magic with Shaq getting the draft rights to Chris Webber (flipped for Penny Hardaway and other firsts).

The teams that are losing fricking HATE this when a team that is middling or good gets a generational talent.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:10 am to
Disagree.

Teams caught blatantly tanking get their pick moved to the back of the lottery. The only way it will get fixed.

This season Toronto and Utah would absolutely have their picks moved
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13043 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:44 am to
It’s an interesting idea. That would incentivize teams to play their stars and try to build momentum going into the following year at the end of the season. At least you’d get 2 months of competitiveness from the shitty teams.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35641 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:39 pm to
Players of the teams that finish in the bottom 3 get their pay cut by 4%.
Players of teams that finish in the bottom 4-6 get pay cut by 3 %
Players of teams that finish in the bottom 7-9 get their play cut by 2%.

Keep the lottery. Tanking stops.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Players of the teams that finish in the bottom 3 get their pay cut by 4%. Players of teams that finish in the bottom 4-6 get pay cut by 3 % Players of teams that finish in the bottom 7-9 get their play cut by 2%. Keep the lottery. Tanking stops.

This would be illegal.

The players aren’t the ones tanking, it’s the coaches/front offices
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35641 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

This would be illegal.


The league would have to negotiate it into the CBA

quote:

The players aren’t the ones tanking, it’s the coaches/front offices


To a certain extent. But it would make the players put pressure on the team to not tank. And it would stop all the chumminess between players and make those teams play super hard.

Imagine 74 games into the season with a team on the brink of getting their pay cut versus a 4th or 5th seed playoff team. There would definitely be some hard play on both sides instead of what you have now.
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1361 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 6:39 pm to
Cheap owners would be more incentivized to lose, so they can reduce player salaries
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

The league would have to negotiate it into the CBA

And the players would never in a million years agree to get their pay cut because a front office wants to tank.

The easiest and best way to discourage tanking is to either strip draft picks or move the pick to the end of the lottery.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31944 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 11:20 pm to
Making it the top 4 vs top 3 and the rearranging the odds was a smart idea. It's worked out fairly well.

Detroit for a number of years were shitting the bed and didn't get 1. Washington is shout to be the same I bet.
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
638 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:56 am to
Again, just make it equal odds for every team in the lottery, with the proviso that a team can't get the number 1 pick two years in a row. If you want to modify it, say the top three teams automatically are excluded from the top three the next draft. If a team is lucky, they won't be in the lottery for very long
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13490 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Often the best player in a given draft turn out to be taken mid or late lottery anyway.
How often?
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
638 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:01 am to
So here's a break down of the draft position of last year's All-NBA players:

Giannis: 15th
Luka: 3rd
Shai Gilgeous: 11th
Jokic: 41st
Tatum: 3rd

Brunson: 33rd
Davis: 1st
Durant: 2nd
Edwards: 1st
Kawhi: 15th

Booker: 13th
Curry: 7th
Haliburton: 12th
LeBron: 1st
Sabonis: 11th
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