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Another tipping thread
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:57 pm
I noticed at a restaurant they gave me precalculated tip options on my bill but the precalculated value included the taxes. I am normally a person that tips 20% of total sale including tax so it didn't really bug me. I got to wondering is this normal? When you click the quick 20% on a hand held device like many restaurants utilize is it normally including the tax?
The only reason I noticed is because my total including tax was $205 and the suggested was $41. So the easy math made it stick out.
The only reason I noticed is because my total including tax was $205 and the suggested was $41. So the easy math made it stick out.
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:20 pm to thadcastle
My experience is that the devices include the total amount - which includes taxes. Its just another way the servers/restaurant can increase their income. Look at it this way, if the taxes in your town/state are 10%, the server is getting another 20% on the 10% tax. If you dont care, remember that others might.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:33 am to thadcastle
I’d say it’s about 60% that include tax in the calculation based on my experience
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:46 am to CouldCareLess
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My experience is that the devices include the total amount - which includes taxes. Its just another way the servers/restaurant can increase their income.
Yep. Most of them it is a setting they can change to calculate on pre-tax. Most don't because they know most won't pay attention and it gets them more money.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:06 am to thadcastle
Why would anyone tip on an expense unrelated to the food or service? So the government takes 5-9% of your bill AND you gonna add 15-20% of that?? No way.
Remember we just gave all servers a raise by passing no tax in tips meaning they don’t pay income tax on their tips.
Remember we just gave all servers a raise by passing no tax in tips meaning they don’t pay income tax on their tips.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:39 pm to Creolesote
I always tip on the total it’s easier and a negligible amount of money even cumulative. Nothing wrong with giving the server a little extra even if it’s pennies
$100 bill tax is $10. difference between tipping on total or not at 20% is $2.00
$100 bill tax is $10. difference between tipping on total or not at 20% is $2.00
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 2:22 pm to CouldCareLess
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another 20% on the 10% tax. If you dont care, remember that others might.
They're free to cook at home.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 5:03 pm to Creolesote
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Remember we just gave all servers a raise by passing no tax in tips meaning they don’t pay income tax on their tips.
Did we?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:46 pm to Creolesote
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Remember we just gave all servers a raise by passing no tax in tips meaning they don’t pay income tax on their tips
When did that pass?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:13 pm to rutiger
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:17 pm to thadcastle
Can I ask why we have a system where an Amazon/UPs employee carrying a heavy box to my front door doesn’t get tip but one carrying a bag of food requires a tip? Just factor the cost of labor into the product so everyone is on the same page and pays the same. It’s not that hard.
When I’m out to eat I’m there to eat and enjoy my time. I’m not there to be the payroll manager. “Well, the waiter forgot my entre but he has a great personality, should we give him 16% or 20%?”
I have a question for people who’s dined in both a non tipping country and a tipping country. Which system do you prefer?
When I’m out to eat I’m there to eat and enjoy my time. I’m not there to be the payroll manager. “Well, the waiter forgot my entre but he has a great personality, should we give him 16% or 20%?”
I have a question for people who’s dined in both a non tipping country and a tipping country. Which system do you prefer?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:19 am to thadcastle
Never tip on tax
Youre a fool if you do
Youre a fool if you do
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:24 am to thadcastle
If your stressing over tipping on tax maybe you should stick to taco bell.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:03 am to PeteRose
I’ve never been able to wrap my head around the logic behind tipping expectations in restaurants. For instance, if I order a simple salad and a drink that totals $25, somehow I’m expected to leave a $5 tip for the waiter. But if I opt for a tomahawk ribeye steak and a drink that comes to $150, suddenly the waiter deserves a $30 tip, despite the fact that their effort in bringing the food to my table is virtually identical in both scenarios. The disparity makes no sense to me; the waiter isn’t cooking the meal or sourcing the ingredients, so why does the tip scale with the price of the order rather than the actual work performed? And don’t even get me started on tipping for takeout orders at fast food joints, there’s no way I’m handing over extra cash for someone to simply put my food in a bag when I’m the one driving there and picking it up. Honestly, the whole tipping culture has spiraled out of control, and it’s become more about guilt or arbitrary rules than rewarding genuine service.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:46 am to CouldCareLess
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My experience is that the devices include the total amount - which includes taxes. Its just another way the servers/restaurant can increase their income. Look at it this way, if the taxes in your town/state are 10%, the server is getting another 20% on the 10% tax. If you dont care, remember that others might.
No
An auto gratuity is viewed in the eyes of most states as a “service charge” which is considered income for the business and it HAS to be taxed.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:47 am to cssamerican
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I’ve never been able to wrap my head around the logic behind tipping expectations in restaurants. For instance, if I order a simple salad and a drink that totals $25, somehow I’m expected to leave a $5 tip for the waiter. But if I opt for a tomahawk ribeye steak and a drink that comes to $150, suddenly the waiter deserves a $30 tip, despite the fact that their effort in bringing the food to my table is virtually identical in both scenarios. The disparity makes no sense to me; the waiter isn’t cooking the meal or sourcing the ingredients, so why does the tip scale with the price of the order rather than the actual work performed? And don’t even get me started on tipping for takeout orders at fast food joints, there’s no way I’m handing over extra cash for someone to simply put my food in a bag when I’m the one driving there and picking it up. Honestly, the whole tipping culture has spiraled out of control, and it’s become more about guilt or arbitrary rules than rewarding genuine service.
get up and get all the shite yourself then.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 6:47 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:48 am to Twenty 49
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quote:Remember we just gave all servers a raise by passing no tax in tips meaning they don’t pay income tax on their tips. Did we?
No it hasn’t been passed
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