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How often do you think realtors collude with each other?

Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16749 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:53 am
There's no real incentive for the buyer's agent to help you get the best price other than the sale itself, but they, like the seller's agent, want you to pay the highest price possible for the property.

It would be easy for the two to get together and if the buyer's agent has been told that the buyer would go higher, but start at $XXXK for the house, then the agents just get together to get the most out of the buyer possible.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49416 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:57 am to
Most agents hate other agents because they think they are superior and others are lazy. Reality is, they're all lazy thieves
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:00 am to
I bet this happens a lot. Always a “bidding war” but nobody else at open house
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73665 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:01 am to
I believe there was some research to suggest that sellers agents aren't always interested in getting the most they can for a particular house.

They're more interested in a sure sale, and the extra work required for an additional 3% of 5 or 10k isn't worth it to them.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3554 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:12 am to
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I bet this happens a lot. Always a “bidding war” but nobody else at open house
I agree. When we moved to our current area a couple years ago, we put an offer in on a house. We went a little above asking price. The next day, our realtor told us the sellers are asking several potential buyers to put in their best and final offer. Instead, we rescinded our offer and our realtor begged and pleaded to for us to keep it in since we had the best offer. I told her they should have taken it then, and how did she know what the offers are. We switched agents also.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19062 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:23 am to
There is definitely some additional information passing between the agents, but not sure I would go so far as imply they are all colluding.

Only dealt with relators a handful of times. When I bought my condo, then 3 different times when I sold my condo. The first 2 times resulted in no offers. 3rd time, I was given an offer below my asking price. Agent asked my thoughts, and when I mentioned I thought it was low and wanted to see if we could split the difference. She told me the buyer put in her best offer and recently had another sale rejected for financing issues. She most likely doesn't get that information without discussing the possibilities of a higher offer with the other agent first; and she definitely didn't hold out for a higher commission because my market price was in line with neighboring condos that sold right before and shortly after mine.
Posted by ClusterCock
Myrtle Beach
Member since Oct 2018
123 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 1:59 pm to
Divorce lawyers do the same thing. They've worked out a loose framework for settlement on the golf course and drinks afterwards.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17378 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:06 pm to
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I agree. When we moved to our current area a couple years ago, we put an offer in on a house. We went a little above asking price. The next day, our realtor told us the sellers are asking several potential buyers to put in their best and final offer. Instead, we rescinded our offer and our realtor begged and pleaded to for us to keep it in since we had the best offer. I told her they should have taken it then, and how did she know what the offers are. We switched agents also.


Had the same thing happen to us back in 2017. My wife's best friend was our agent, so she wasn't in on it, but we knew we were offering more than the house would appraise for and had cash on hand to make that work. Instead, they played a game, we pulled back, and they ended up having to accept a fully financed offer for $20k less than we offered.

You're selling a house, not a fricking cow at auction.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
949 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:08 pm to
The final stage of negotiation on a house is usually within a $10,000 range. I don't think they're colluding to get an extra $200-300. It's more important to get the deal finalized, otherwise they are making $0.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14771 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:09 pm to
Absolutely this happens.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3554 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:14 pm to
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they played a game, we pulled back, and they ended up having to accept a fully financed offer for $20k less than we offered.
I just looked up the property records, and the house sold for $15k less than our offer. That makes me feel even better about it. In the end, we had our house built and have zero complaints.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25801 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:16 pm to
99.99% of the time.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51672 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:18 pm to
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It's more important to get the deal finalized, otherwise they are making $0.


That’s when you have to take advantage
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14772 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:23 pm to
All the time.
It’s in the agent’s best interest to get a fast, sure sale even though it is not for top dollar.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82925 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:27 pm to
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It’s in the agent’s best interest to get a fast, sure sale even though it is not for top dollar.


if you’re letting the realtor take the lead you’re pretty naive
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
25598 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Most agents hate other agents

That was very obvious when we bought the house we are in now. You could see the fire in their eyes when they were cutting glances at each other. At the signing, I don't think they said more than a dozen words to each other.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27929 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:07 pm to
I can’t imagine it’s that bad on the typical houses around here. If they “squeeze” another $10k out of you on a $300k deal they only make an additional $300. Not worth the risk of losing the deal and risking their reputation over $9000 vs $9300.

Maybe it’s more prevalent on the mega deals in the very affluent areas, but I doubt it’s that widespread on your typical deals.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23387 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:20 pm to
Before the new rules, I doubt it was much since the commission rate was right there in the listing. Now? When they have to talk out the rate? I'd imagine it's substantially more.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Divorce lawyers do the same thing. They've worked out a loose framework for settlement on the golf course and drinks afterwards.

A divorce lawyer would be incentivized to take every case to trial as they're just billing hourly. Getting people to settle helps them none. Yet almost all cases settle nonetheless. If you really want to spend an extra $30k in litigation to argue about the division of $20k, then I'm sure any divorce attorney would gladly oblige. So even if they are “settling a case in the golf course,” that’s prob the best for the parties and no so much for their attorneys' bottom lines
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68122 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 5:37 pm to
I have no doubt some do. I've had a buyer agent suggest what a seller was liable to accept after unsuccessful counteroffers with the selling agent. It was moreso to ensure a sale on both sides, though, in this case.
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