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How often do you think realtors collude with each other?
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:53 am
There's no real incentive for the buyer's agent to help you get the best price other than the sale itself, but they, like the seller's agent, want you to pay the highest price possible for the property.
It would be easy for the two to get together and if the buyer's agent has been told that the buyer would go higher, but start at $XXXK for the house, then the agents just get together to get the most out of the buyer possible.
It would be easy for the two to get together and if the buyer's agent has been told that the buyer would go higher, but start at $XXXK for the house, then the agents just get together to get the most out of the buyer possible.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:57 am to cubsfan5150
Most agents hate other agents because they think they are superior and others are lazy. Reality is, they're all lazy thieves
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:00 am to cubsfan5150
I bet this happens a lot. Always a “bidding war” but nobody else at open house
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:01 am to cubsfan5150
I believe there was some research to suggest that sellers agents aren't always interested in getting the most they can for a particular house.
They're more interested in a sure sale, and the extra work required for an additional 3% of 5 or 10k isn't worth it to them.
They're more interested in a sure sale, and the extra work required for an additional 3% of 5 or 10k isn't worth it to them.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:12 am to fareplay
quote:I agree. When we moved to our current area a couple years ago, we put an offer in on a house. We went a little above asking price. The next day, our realtor told us the sellers are asking several potential buyers to put in their best and final offer. Instead, we rescinded our offer and our realtor begged and pleaded to for us to keep it in since we had the best offer. I told her they should have taken it then, and how did she know what the offers are. We switched agents also.
I bet this happens a lot. Always a “bidding war” but nobody else at open house
Posted on 2/27/25 at 11:23 am to cubsfan5150
There is definitely some additional information passing between the agents, but not sure I would go so far as imply they are all colluding.
Only dealt with relators a handful of times. When I bought my condo, then 3 different times when I sold my condo. The first 2 times resulted in no offers. 3rd time, I was given an offer below my asking price. Agent asked my thoughts, and when I mentioned I thought it was low and wanted to see if we could split the difference. She told me the buyer put in her best offer and recently had another sale rejected for financing issues. She most likely doesn't get that information without discussing the possibilities of a higher offer with the other agent first; and she definitely didn't hold out for a higher commission because my market price was in line with neighboring condos that sold right before and shortly after mine.
Only dealt with relators a handful of times. When I bought my condo, then 3 different times when I sold my condo. The first 2 times resulted in no offers. 3rd time, I was given an offer below my asking price. Agent asked my thoughts, and when I mentioned I thought it was low and wanted to see if we could split the difference. She told me the buyer put in her best offer and recently had another sale rejected for financing issues. She most likely doesn't get that information without discussing the possibilities of a higher offer with the other agent first; and she definitely didn't hold out for a higher commission because my market price was in line with neighboring condos that sold right before and shortly after mine.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 1:59 pm to cubsfan5150
Divorce lawyers do the same thing. They've worked out a loose framework for settlement on the golf course and drinks afterwards.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:06 pm to AFtigerFan
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I agree. When we moved to our current area a couple years ago, we put an offer in on a house. We went a little above asking price. The next day, our realtor told us the sellers are asking several potential buyers to put in their best and final offer. Instead, we rescinded our offer and our realtor begged and pleaded to for us to keep it in since we had the best offer. I told her they should have taken it then, and how did she know what the offers are. We switched agents also.
Had the same thing happen to us back in 2017. My wife's best friend was our agent, so she wasn't in on it, but we knew we were offering more than the house would appraise for and had cash on hand to make that work. Instead, they played a game, we pulled back, and they ended up having to accept a fully financed offer for $20k less than we offered.
You're selling a house, not a fricking cow at auction.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:08 pm to cubsfan5150
The final stage of negotiation on a house is usually within a $10,000 range. I don't think they're colluding to get an extra $200-300. It's more important to get the deal finalized, otherwise they are making $0.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:09 pm to cubsfan5150
Absolutely this happens.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:14 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:I just looked up the property records, and the house sold for $15k less than our offer. That makes me feel even better about it. In the end, we had our house built and have zero complaints.
they played a game, we pulled back, and they ended up having to accept a fully financed offer for $20k less than we offered.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:18 pm to Ben Hur
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It's more important to get the deal finalized, otherwise they are making $0.
That’s when you have to take advantage
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:23 pm to cubsfan5150
All the time.
It’s in the agent’s best interest to get a fast, sure sale even though it is not for top dollar.
It’s in the agent’s best interest to get a fast, sure sale even though it is not for top dollar.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 2:27 pm to geauxpurple
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It’s in the agent’s best interest to get a fast, sure sale even though it is not for top dollar.
if you’re letting the realtor take the lead you’re pretty naive
Posted on 2/27/25 at 3:43 pm to mylsuhat
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Most agents hate other agents
That was very obvious when we bought the house we are in now. You could see the fire in their eyes when they were cutting glances at each other. At the signing, I don't think they said more than a dozen words to each other.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:07 pm to cubsfan5150
I can’t imagine it’s that bad on the typical houses around here. If they “squeeze” another $10k out of you on a $300k deal they only make an additional $300. Not worth the risk of losing the deal and risking their reputation over $9000 vs $9300.
Maybe it’s more prevalent on the mega deals in the very affluent areas, but I doubt it’s that widespread on your typical deals.
Maybe it’s more prevalent on the mega deals in the very affluent areas, but I doubt it’s that widespread on your typical deals.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:20 pm to cubsfan5150
Before the new rules, I doubt it was much since the commission rate was right there in the listing. Now? When they have to talk out the rate? I'd imagine it's substantially more.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 4:23 pm to ClusterCock
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Divorce lawyers do the same thing. They've worked out a loose framework for settlement on the golf course and drinks afterwards.
A divorce lawyer would be incentivized to take every case to trial as they're just billing hourly. Getting people to settle helps them none. Yet almost all cases settle nonetheless. If you really want to spend an extra $30k in litigation to argue about the division of $20k, then I'm sure any divorce attorney would gladly oblige. So even if they are “settling a case in the golf course,” that’s prob the best for the parties and no so much for their attorneys' bottom lines
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/27/25 at 5:37 pm to cubsfan5150
I have no doubt some do. I've had a buyer agent suggest what a seller was liable to accept after unsuccessful counteroffers with the selling agent. It was moreso to ensure a sale on both sides, though, in this case.
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