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Trump looking to log national forests
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:17 pm
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Not sure how I feel about this. Seems like it would really screw tree farmers.
I don’t know if it’s real or not but there’s video in the link.
Not sure how I feel about this. Seems like it would really screw tree farmers.
I don’t know if it’s real or not but there’s video in the link.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:19 pm to The Levee
it will piss off a Canadians that moved to fill the demand 13 years ago
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:27 pm to The Levee
Obviously there are more positives than negatives.
I’m just a tree farmer lol
I’m just a tree farmer lol
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:28 pm to The Levee
If he thinks building costs are high because of a lack of lumber, then I’m ashamed of my vote.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:45 pm to The Levee
Selective logging is GREAT for the ecosystem....
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:58 pm to The Levee
Oh, nice. Already having hell moving timber. Let’s throw even more dirt cheap wood on the market. On top of that, who’s gonna monitor harvesting activities? They going to rehire all the people they let go?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:29 pm to The Levee
Portions of the Homochitto forest have been marked for years now but no ones wants to deal with the regs on top of low timber prices.
Selling timber off national forests isn't anything new.
Selling timber off national forests isn't anything new.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:21 pm to The Levee
National forests were originally established with the intent to provide timber for the nation.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:35 am to Bill Parker?
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National forests were originally established with the intent to provide timber for the nation.
The national forests can’t thin everything they want because they would have a monopoly on timber if the sold everything they wanted to. Have to think about the other landowners as well
Regs aren’t really that big of a deal. If you’ve ever seen a logging job on private lands sometimes th eh can be pretty devastating to the land. Sometimes you have to tell a logger it’s a little too wet to log or maybe you shouldn’t dump 50 gallons of hydraulic oil in that stunk hole or hey man can you maybe not hit every other standing tree while you are skidding logs out
Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:38 am to Ron Cheramie
And out west there aren’t enough mills There are millions and millions of acres to log but it’s not worth it having to drive 200 miles to The nearest mill and the specialized equipment it takes to log
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:24 am to The Levee
National Forest are Department of Ag so I never understood why they weren't managed for logging. I would have exceptions for wilderness areas.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:32 am to The Levee
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Not sure how I feel about this. Seems like it would really screw tree farmers.
It depends. Here in the west, invasive bark beetles have killed thousands of acres of trees. They create a significant fire hazard. I would be in favor of thinning in those areas before they were catastrophically destroyed. .
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:39 am to Lonnie Utah
There’s been thinning of KNF timber for probably ten years now, and an occasional clearcut. I like it because it promotes more thickets.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:41 am to Lonnie Utah
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It depends. Here in the west, invasive bark beetles have killed thousands of acres of trees. They create a significant fire hazard. I would be in favor of thinning in those areas before they were catastrophically destroyed. .
This!
Out west USFS and BLM land is comprised of species that had a fire component for thousands of years. The regular intervals of fires would reduce the understory vegetation and debris (reduce fuel loading). And it would remove sick and diseased plants. Also since it was regular and low fuel loading there was not significant damage to soil, microbes, ect.
Well... we prevent fires to protect people. Which is a good decision.
However, the forests out there NEED the fire component. So thinning or prescribed burning is necessary. Unfortunately, politics prevent the necessary mgmt for being done. It's actually straightforward sceince; but no one want to say they cut trees because the voters veiw it as armageddon despite the science...
Worked in NV, OR, and CA and it was sad to see it happening.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:42 am to The Levee
Kisatchie National Forest is thinned or logged nearly every year in sections. The forest service here also does a really good job with maintaing fire breaks and doing controlled burns as well. This needs to be instituted in other areas of the country that don't practice the same forest management as around here. Like other posters have said, to at least allow companies to go in and get dead and fallen trees out, or thin out pine beetle damaged trees would help a lot with wild fire danger. That was said over and over again about California for years.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:43 am to The Levee
Cant give away SYP now, I can't imagine who is going to buy it when there is even more of it on the market.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:55 am to The Levee
National Forest around me needs a little TSI. They burn sections every year but can literally see hundreds of yards in any direction which serves little protection/food for certain wildlife species.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:58 am to The Levee
I am what one would call, graciously, a hobby miller. I am currently in the process of milling 77,000 board feet of southern yellow pine that is 60+ years old. I am doing that massive amount because there is no market for it standing, fallen or milled. None. Hard to find anyone who would haul it off for a price, let alone buy it. All of it came off a 3/10th of an acre lot, typically wooded for east Georgia. The only reason I am milling it is because I hated to put it in a landfill....and hated even more paying to put it in a landfill.
I have milled about 3000 bf of it and it is down to about 15% moisture content. It is straighter and truer than ANY lumber sold in any lumber yard in Georgia. Its also true dimensioned. There is no market for it at all. Not even in the surrounding counties where there are no or pretty lax building codes. The market is already awash in timber.....its kiln dried grade stamped lumber that is relatively scarce and expensive. The lumber I am sitting on is higher quality green than most is when kiln dried and graded but the magical grade stamp, applied by an employee of the mill, makes the stuff sold at Home Depot superior to anything....it is that stamp that matters, not the tree, not the miller, nothing but that stamp.
I have milled about 3000 bf of it and it is down to about 15% moisture content. It is straighter and truer than ANY lumber sold in any lumber yard in Georgia. Its also true dimensioned. There is no market for it at all. Not even in the surrounding counties where there are no or pretty lax building codes. The market is already awash in timber.....its kiln dried grade stamped lumber that is relatively scarce and expensive. The lumber I am sitting on is higher quality green than most is when kiln dried and graded but the magical grade stamp, applied by an employee of the mill, makes the stuff sold at Home Depot superior to anything....it is that stamp that matters, not the tree, not the miller, nothing but that stamp.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:03 am to turkish
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If he thinks building costs are high because of a lack of lumber, then I’m ashamed of my vote.
He doesnt care, his job is to excite the idiots.
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