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Only way to be “One nation”

Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by JperiodCperiod
Member since Aug 2022
77 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:24 pm
The only way to remain one country and not be at constant odds within is to limit the federal government and return most functions to the states. We are simply too big, too populated, too diverse to have one ideology.

The federal government should be about national defense, international relationships and few other big items.

Let NY, CA, etc to be as left as they want, with their own tax dollars and within their own boarders. Let each state’s people self govern.

The current dynamics also make the two party system necessary. Thousands of issues with arrays of positions for each but we have two parties.


This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59061 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:25 pm to
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The current dynamics also make the two party system necessary.


Why? Why not more than two parties?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59383 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:25 pm to
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The federal government should be about national defense, international relationships and few other big items.


Hmmmm, where have I seen/heard this before?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296072 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:26 pm to
One govt and two parites cannot rule 350 of the most diverse people on the planet.

There needs to be a split
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116706 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:27 pm to
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We are simply too big, too populated, too diverse to have on ideology.

Oddly, in the 18th century when we were small, low population and not diverse the states had more power compared to the federal govt. than the current balance.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17351 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:28 pm to
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One govt and two parites cannot rule 350 of the most diverse people on the planet.


If half of the libertarian party weren’t batshit crazy anarchists you might have a chance at 3
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5535 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Why? Why not more than two parties?


The govt already moves at the speed of a snail. If you splinter into more than 2 it will come to a halt (that may be a good thing).
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7139 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:34 pm to
Need a divorce. Marxist Dems get a geographic area comparable to their geographic voting footprint … a couple or a few states . Red America holds a convention and returns the power to the people …balanced budget, simplified tax code perhaps no income tax, term limits, etc.

Edit : election security provisions
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59061 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:35 pm to
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The govt already moves at the speed of a snail. If you splinter into more than 2 it will come to a halt (that may be a good thing).


Our current system isn’t working and hasn’t worked for decades. We gotta try something different.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64047 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
This is wonderful but the American left is obsessed with centrally controlled everything and wants to smash down every one of their ideas on everyone.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59061 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:53 pm to
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This is wonderful but the American left is obsessed with centrally controlled everything


Respectfully, the self-proclaimed conservatives of this board are applauding the president’s many overreaching executive orders.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19265 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:01 pm to
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The federal government should be about


Its limited functions assigned in the constitution. That would fix everything.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64047 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Respectfully, the self-proclaimed conservatives of this board are applauding the president’s many overreaching executive orders.


??

You'll never in a million years convince me your ilk isn't the greatest threat to this nation.

Look at Europe, arresting people for tweets, ignoring rapes by violent illegal immigrants and arresting those who even speak of it. That's your party.

Control of social media, control of government via NGOs, control of foreign policy. No one elected or voted, just installed and then we're all supposed to shut up.

Your presidential candidate was simply installed without any vote.??


Even Bernie was tanked TWICE as a candidate for Hillary and then Biden.

Centrally planned economies, centrally planned policing, etc.

The left is OBSESSED with this.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59383 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Respectfully, the self-proclaimed conservatives of this board are applauding the president’s many overreaching executive orders.


Out of curiosity, which things that he’s done do you consider overreach?
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17619 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:08 pm to
Is that what a constitutional convention would do?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9352 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:10 pm to
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Our current system isn’t working and hasn’t worked for decades. We gotta try something different


Yeah I am shocked that there isn’t 3 debates during the election cycle. You mean to tell me that there couldn’t be a Democrat debate, Republican debate and then an ‘Independent’ debate with Libetarian, Green, etc and then we could possibly get more options than just the two party system.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20922 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
Live and let live only works if that’s both parties policy. It’s not. The left is just incompatible with America.

Balkanization is the only way to coexist.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2154 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:57 pm to
Agree. If only some wise people could have thought of this earlier and put it in writing.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74059 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:22 pm to
The only thing the two party system has guaranteed is that there will only be two parties in power.

Only two parties makes it easier for the elites and corporations to influence and control.

Our country is big and is loud like a saloon in the old west and that's just fine with me.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59061 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Out of curiosity, which things that he’s done do you consider overreach?


Overriding the Congressional budget, which disregards the powers of the legislative branch. Congress may be rogue, but we elected those morons to keep doing the same reckless shite they’ve been doing for decades. The people have spoken.
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