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What DeepSeek knows about you — Why it matters DeepSeek’s privacy issues should worry you
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:10 pm
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What DeepSeek knows about you — and why it matters
Do DeepSeek’s privacy issues worry you? They should.
By Christianna Silva
January 29, 2025
DeepSeek, a Chinese AI chatbot similar to OpenAI's ChatGPT, is the most downloaded free app in the U.S. — but its swift rise to the top of the app store charts has raised potent privacy concerns at a time when the U.S. is banning TikTok over its ties to the Chinese government.
Like most apps, DeepSeek requires you to agree to its privacy policy when you sign up to access it — but you probably don't read it.
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Here's the TL;DR from DeepSeek's privacy policy:
It collects "Information You Provide"
Profile information like date of birth, username, email address, telephone number, password
The text, audio, prompt, feedback, chat history, uploaded files, and other content you provide to DeepSeek
Information when you contact them, like proof of identity or age and feedback or inquiries
It collects "Automatically Collected Information"
Internet and other network activity information like your IP address, device identifier, and cookies
Technical information like your device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, system language, diagnostic and performance information, and an automatically assigned device ID and user ID
Usage information like the features you use
Payment information, which is self-explanatory
It collects "Information from Other Sources"
Log-in, sign-up, or linked services and accounts, like if you sign up using Google or Apple
Advertising measurement and other partners share user information with DeepSeek, such as what you've bought at their stores
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What do "keystroke patterns or rhythms" mean?
DeepSeek's privacy policy states that it collects "keystroke patterns or rhythms," which might seem unusual but not completely uncommon. For instance, TikTok collects the same information, while Instagram does not.
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:12 pm to NC_Tigah
Worried about privacy?
That ship sailed back in 2008. At this point I’d trust the Chinese with our data over the NSA.
That ship sailed back in 2008. At this point I’d trust the Chinese with our data over the NSA.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:12 pm to NC_Tigah
So, like every other app in the App Store?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:19 pm to NC_Tigah
Not too mention...malware being installed
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:20 pm to GumboPot
I think NC Boomer is just jealous Deepseek made Sam Altman look like a dumbass
Watch the below clip and you will see why OpenAI let a company with less people and resources beat them. Sam Altman looks like a arrogant prick. He got humbled
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Writing is thinking
What do "keystroke patterns or rhythms" mean? DeepSeek's privacy policy states that it collects "keystroke patterns or rhythms,"
When people stupidly parrot, “what’s the big deal, they have all our information anyway”, they don’t know what the frick they are talking about. By having a full record of how we type, they also have a record of how we think. The belief is that, long term, when these AI models get powerful enough, they will be able to functionally reverse engineer our entire thought process.
You think people are easy to manipulate now? Wait until a handful of super powerful AI companies armed with ASI have a record of the specific thought process of every person in the world.
We’re hurling towards dystopia, and no one seems to care
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:17 pm to funnystuff
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:28 pm to NC_Tigah
The government lost the right to preach at me about “Chinese interference” when they signed the patriot act way back when.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:46 pm to NC_Tigah
How do you think they trained ChatGPT numb-nuts? 100% chance Chicken sold us all out to Lizard boy Sam Altman. Are you 80?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:49 pm to funnystuff
quote:
We’re hurling towards dystopia, and no one seems to care
The time for discussion was 15 years ago. At this point dystopia is here and, lucky for us, you get to pick your flavor because all the horror stories science fiction was warning us about has, or is about to be reality. Hope you boys are well read! We are IN it!
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:57 pm to NC_Tigah
No one cares about DeepSeek being an exclusive China app like they did with TikTok. Wonder why?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:01 am to ShermanTxTiger
It's open source, so people can look under the hood and see what is there.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:03 am to John Barron
quote:In fact, there is little evidence of that at all.
I think NC Boomer
Sorry, but there is no evidence you actually read the article, much less understood what you read.
You saw a thread critical of "DeepSeek," got triggered, stopped reading at the title, and reacted on pure emotional outrage, as triggered people do.
While the author draws some delineation between Chinese & US apps, e.g.,
quote:
DeepSeek's privacy policy states that it collects "keystroke patterns or rhythms," ... TikTok collects the same information, while Instagram does not.
Here is the article's conclusion:
quote:Do you disagree?
Stronger data privacy laws would help everyone, whether it concerns apps located in China or apps with similarly questionable data privacy laws in the U.S., like Meta and OpenAI.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:56 am to John Barron
quote:I guess while I'm at it, I should address this stupidity as well.
NC Boomer is just jealous Deepseek made Sam Altman look like a dumbass
I'm not an Altman fan.
In contrast, I think quite a bit of Musk. "Fan" wouldn't be accurate as it's excessively effusive in describing someone I've never met. However, I am a fan of pragmatic accomplishment, and Musk certainly meets that mark in spades. So when he raises public concern about Altman's care and understanding of AI guardrails, or Larry Page's FTM, I take note.
That doesn't necessarily mean I take him at his word (e.g., Musk assuredly knows Climate Change "Science" is complete bullshite. Yet, he happily encourages it, because it's great for TSLA), but it does leave me suspicious of Altman as a possibly overweening Boris Grishenko type character. So some undercutting of Altman playing US AI lead is just fine with me.
China is a different deal though. I'd prefer they didn't have access, or capability to access my bank accounts, private transactions, etc., or those of any other American. They are an existential threat to the west and freedom. Your willingness to slobber their knob is unfortunate, inane, but noted.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 4:59 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:08 am to funnystuff
quote:
We’re hurling towards dystopia, and no one seems to care
Yep.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:41 am to 844_Tiger
quote:
How do you think they trained ChatGPT numb-nuts?
quote:Well Hoss, it's not a matter of what I "think."
844_Tiger
Member since Jul 2021
131 posts
How "they" trained ChatGPT is a matter of widely disseminated public disclosure.
I could detail that for you in response to your likely inebriated query last night, but I doubt you'd see the post when you next visit the board in a month or two.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to GumboPot
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So, like every other app in the App Store?
That’s why I still don’t get the Tik Tok uproar
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:59 am to NC_Tigah
What is your current trade position on NVDA?
I would caution wash trades and the underlying tax rules associated with potentially making short term profits unless you are shielded in various ways.
I would caution wash trades and the underlying tax rules associated with potentially making short term profits unless you are shielded in various ways.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:03 am to NC_Tigah
Nothing about Deepseek passed the smell test the minute the press release went public announcing it. I believed close to nothing coming out of the CCP.
I'm curious how much the communist party had shorting our Tech stocks?
I'm curious how much the communist party had shorting our Tech stocks?
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