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What do you think were the politics of the President in “Civil War”?
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:32 am
We get to hear the President talk a few times, but we don’t ever really get to find out what he did to cause all of this. There is reference to a “antifa massacre“ but no details on that at all.
I’ve seen some stuff where people say the president was supposed to be a “Trump like figure“, But I don’t think we were given enough information to compare him to any president.
What do you think?
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:37 am to Tiger1242
It was never made apparent and since the movie was so terrible I never bothered to figure it out but being a Hollywood production
quote:that’s a safe assumption.
I’ve seen some stuff where people say the president was supposed to be a “Trump like figure“
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:45 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
Really grinds my gears too in fact how awful it was. With all the political tension in the U.S. it was a huge disservice to not make the sides apparent in the movie IMO. I feel like anyone off the street could’ve come up with a better script than that lame movie given the title and setting alone. It’s actually kind of incredible they managed to make a civil war movie set in America and they managed to leave the viewer not even caring to choose a side.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:45 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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It was never made apparent and since the movie was so terrible I never bothered to figure it out but being a Hollywood production
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I’ve seen some stuff where people say the president was supposed to be a “Trump like figure“
that’s a safe assumption.
You clearly went into it looking to be outraged. He was supposed to be a textbook demagogue. If that reminds you of your dude, maybe there are other issues at play.
Danny Boyle left the politics ambiguous, because the movie is not about the politics of a civil war, but rather the "nobody wins" nature of "civil war."
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:46 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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It was never made apparent and since the movie was so terrible I never bothered to figure it out
I didn’t think the movie was so terrible. The idea was a 9/10 and the execution was a 4/10, still winds up a 6.5/10 overall IMO.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:46 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Uhh Wut?
I literally said you couldn’t tell who the sides were supposed to be and said that it was made in Hollywood it is a safe assumption the president was probably meant to be orange man bad
You’re the one looking to be angry right now
ETA this is why I said it was terrible:
I literally said you couldn’t tell who the sides were supposed to be and said that it was made in Hollywood it is a safe assumption the president was probably meant to be orange man bad
You’re the one looking to be angry right now
ETA this is why I said it was terrible:
quote:because I agree the idea was there but the execution was boring
Danny Boyle left the politics ambiguous, because the movie is not about the politics of a civil war, but rather the "nobody wins" nature of "civil war."
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 7:49 am
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:56 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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ou clearly went into it looking to be outraged. He was supposed to be a textbook demagogue. If that reminds you of your dude, maybe there are other issues at play.
Danny Boyle left the politics ambiguous, because the movie is not about the politics of a civil war, but rather the "nobody wins" nature of "civil war."
This. If you needed to see which side to pick you missed the point by a mile.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:17 am to saintsfan22
Guess the point went over my head since it lost my attention. I went into it wanting to be entertained and wasn’t. That’s the start and end of my issues here…
Like I intended to say in another post, I hope this movie doesn’t prevent the idea for a movie ever being attempted again. A “deep state” brainwashed population vs a populist rebel leader type of real world civil war movie would be a fun watch
Like I intended to say in another post, I hope this movie doesn’t prevent the idea for a movie ever being attempted again. A “deep state” brainwashed population vs a populist rebel leader type of real world civil war movie would be a fun watch
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:18 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Danny Boyle left the politics ambiguous
What did Danny Boyle have to do with it?
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:31 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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since the movie was so terrible I never bothered to figure it out
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:35 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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I went into it wanting to be entertained
MOAR BOOM BOOMS
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:07 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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With all the political tension in the U.S. it was a huge disservice to not make the sides apparent in the movie IMO
so you wanted a movie that painted your side as good guys and the other side as bad guys
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:25 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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With all the political tension in the U.S. it was a huge disservice to not make the sides apparent in the movie IMO.
So you wanted Hollywood to make a movie that promoted one political agenda and demonized another?
I agree, we don’t get that enough, I wish Hollywood would force politics into more stuff, that would be refreshing.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:32 am to Tiger1242
Didn’t he do the thing that some people think Trump might do and fly in the face of the Constitution to give himself a 3rd term? In that regard it stands to reason he is probably a Republican
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:33 am to Dire Wolf
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so you wanted a movie that painted your side as good guys and the other side as bad guys
I think it’s more likely they want to be portrayed as the bad guys so they can remain perpetually offended.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:40 am to lsutigersFTW
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Didn’t he do the thing that some people think Trump might do and fly in the face of the Constitution to give himself a 3rd term?
This is a huge stretch because Trump has not done this. So comparing him to Trump for something Trump hasn’t done is kind of silly
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:50 am to Tiger1242
I don't know how Alex Garland made a movie about a 2nd American civil war & chose to make it apolitical. It might have worked if we got some Red Dawn or Invasion USA style over the top action, but we didn't. We got a road trip for photo journalists.
Grow some balls.
Grow some balls.
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:43 pm to Tiger1242
Trump.
And the heroes were the liberal reporters.
Hurt some liberal's feelings? BTW, this was written by a liberal.
And the heroes were the liberal reporters.
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Alex Garland’s ‘Civil War’ is LARPing for the Ladies of The View
It depicts the sum total of 8 years of fear, panic and hysteria inside the bubble of the Left
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Civil War is a movie that brings to life the delusional fever dreams of people like Rob Reiner, Bill Maher, Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Barbra Streisand and countless others. The more MSNBC a person watches, the more likely they are to see Civil War as our potential future should Donald Trump get re-elected. This movie is exactly what they believe would happen.
You won’t find many negative reviews for Civil War on Rotten Tomatoes. As always, the critics will spout the party line because the film reflects how they see the world. That will be especially true for people who have become obsessed with the “us vs. them” mentality that is ripping this country apart. No, it isn’t on “both sides.” It’s on one side, the side with all the power.
Most critics are also afraid to stand apart. They exist in a hive mind, but there’s a good chance the audience reviews will reflect something very different. Right now, the film has 54 reviews on RT at 93%
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Civil War reflects the fear and anxiety of the ruling class in this country as it faces a significant confrontation by the middle and working class. It is one they can’t see. They are surfing on hubris and fantastical imaginings because their empire is crumbling. True of the legacy media, true of Hollywood, true of the Democratic Party. It is not a matter of “if” but “when.” A counterculture revolution will be upon us to force the change they can’t make on their own.
There is a great quote about Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovitch on the Russian empire before the revolution, “the last spectacular ball in the history of the empire … [but] a new and hostile Russia glared through the large windows of the palace … while we danced, the workers were striking and the clouds in the Far East were hanging dangerously low.”
The film Civil War will hold its place as a time capsule that reflects how the people at the top see their greatest threat – a takeover by a fascist dictator who refuses to leave office. Gee, who’s that supposed to be? Hm. It will come to me anytime now.
Hurt some liberal's feelings? BTW, this was written by a liberal.
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A friend of mine said he almost got a boner at the end of Civil War. You can bet the ladies of the View will cry and cheer too, as the thing they all dream about unfolds on film. Finally, a movie that puts it all together: 9 years of systematic dehumanization, demonization, and marginalization played out as a fantasy so they can finally get their man, at least in a movie.
His subsequent texts to me included things like this about former President Trump:
“He deserves to die a violent death.”
“If there is a God he would be dead.”
“I felt a very good feeling.”
And there you have it. Despite Garland’s attempts to make the film neutral, he has delivered a fantasy narrative inside the minds of people who exist in a fear bunker, have long since become disconnected from real life, and who are tormented only by one person and his followers.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:51 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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because the movie is not about the politics of a civil war, but rather the "nobody wins" nature of "civil war."
Yeah some here just wanted it so badly to be about Trump because that means their biases are confirmed and they can bitch about it online.
Fact that the reasons are ambiguous pisses them off so much more and it’s hilarious
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:54 pm to dawgfan24348
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Yeah some here just wanted it so badly to be about Trump because that means their biases are confirmed and they can bitch about it online.
Fact that the reasons are ambiguous pisses them off so much more and it’s hilarious
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For people whose singular obsession in life remains Donald Trump they will probably love Civil War as it gives them exactly what they need to sleep at night. We’re still the good guys, right? We’re still the good guys, RIGHT?
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The filmmakers went to great lengths to say that the film doesn’t represent any political parties, but come on, who are they kidding? By now, we know what all of Hollywood already thinks because they can’t shut up about it. It’s everything, everywhere all of the time. People like Rob Reiner see half the country as human garbage at best and Nazis at worst. This film reflects that point of view, even if not overtly. There is no room for the “other side” to see themselves except negatively.
It's okay, you are just stuck in 1984 and instead of 2 minutes of hate you've been brainwashed with 8 years of it.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 3:05 pm
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