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The Verge: Trump & Musk spread misinformation about fires

Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:20 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:20 pm
From The Verge today:
quote:


The first wave of disinformation focused on fire hydrants in the Pacific Palisades, which abruptly ran out of water on Tuesday night as firefighters attempted to put out the initial blaze. The hydrants, Trump said, were running dry because of Newsom’s water policies. “I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to FLOW INTO CALIFORNIA!” Trump posted on Truth Social on Wednesday. “He is the blame for this. On top of it all, no water for fire hydrants, not firefighting planes. A true disaster!” In a separate post, Trump claimed Newsom had “refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.”

Newsom’s office responded on Wednesday, clarifying that the declaration Trump referred to in his post didn’t exist. “There is no such document as the water restoration declaration – that is pure fiction,” Newsom communications director Izzy Gardon told CalMatters. “The Governor is focused on protecting people, not playing politics, and making sure firefighters have all the resources they need.”

Mark Gold, a board member of the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, told the outlet that statewide water management policies, including efforts to protect the delta smelt, had nothing to do with the lack of water in the hydrants. “Tying Bay-Delta management into devastating wildfires that have cost people’s lives and homes is nothing short of irresponsible, and it’s happening at a time when the Metropolitan Water District has the most water stored in its system in the history of the agency,” Gold said. “It’s not a matter of having enough water coming from Northern California to put out a fire. It’s about the continued devastating impacts of a changing climate.”

The lack of water in the Pacific Palisades hydrants was instead due to a reduction in water pressure caused by increased demand, the LA Times reported. Janisse Quiñones, the chief executive and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, told the paper that so much water was being used that the utility wasn’t able to fill the tanks quickly enough. The demand for water at lower elevations was also preventing the utility from refilling tanks at higher elevations, according to the LA Times.

Wednesday night, as powerful Santa Ana winds spread the fires to Altadena, Pasadena, and the Hollywood Hills, right-wing influencers accused city officials of slashing the fire department’s budget and prioritizing diversity programs over sound fire prevention policy — which Musk reposted on X. ...

But as Politico pointed out, Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass didn’t cut $23 million from the fire department’s budget, a claim that has been repeated by critics on both the right and the left, some of whom said Bass cut fire department funding to pay for a new police contract. The fire department’s budget actually increased by more than $50 million over the previous year, according to Politico, though others have noted that LA fire chief Kristin Crowley criticized Bass’ decision to cut $7 million from the department’s overtime budget just a few weeks before the Palisades fire. “The reduction … has severely limited the department’s capacity to prepare for, train for, and respond to large-scale emergencies, including wildfires,” Crowley wrote in a December 4th memo.

This nuance is, of course, being lost on X, where influencers have also begun posting AI-generated images of looters descending upon the Palisades and the Hollywood sign engulfed in flames. Disinformation is spreading like... you can probably guess what.


The Verge website.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48299 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:22 pm to
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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93122 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:23 pm to
The Pride Fire Chief said kommie karen cut her budget

Politico can get fricked
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8027 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:23 pm to
so the leftwing website that picks up the slack for the other leftwing propaganda websites that have been muted somewhat?
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2062 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:25 pm to
first downvote!
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9205 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Newsom’s office responded on Wednesday, clarifying that the declaration Trump referred to in his post didn’t exist. “There is no such document as the water restoration declaration – that is pure fiction,” Newsom communications director Izzy Gardon told CalMatters.


Trump lied, Newsom is telling the truth!

Source - just trust me bro.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12488 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:37 pm to
Rough couple months for you huh? Here’s to hoping this cope helps ya feel a little better!
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5156 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:39 pm to
I have a fairly liberal friend in Pasadena a few blocks from the mandatory evacuation areas. He said he is freaked out about looters. I don't thinnk that's AI fakery.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5156 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:40 pm to
Also WTF is The Verge?

no thanks.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162304 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:40 pm to


they are going to still try Obama's ATTACK WATCH! REPORT YOUR NEIGHBOR
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83656 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:40 pm to
Expect a nice response from Musk via Twitter here soon… will obliterate that rag
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65128 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:42 pm to
Trump covered all the problems with California water on his Rogan podcast before the election; I watched it, he’s a time traveler, or he is just ahead of everyone intellectually…
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83656 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:43 pm to
So much evidence out there to show Trump/Musk and all other critics correct

Reservoir dry
Fire Chief admitting they were failed
Newsome and Cali not allowing water flow
State Farm laying out issues in Sept
Etc…
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9550 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56846 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:46 pm to
Tech website owned by Vox.
Posted by PhifeDogg
Member since Mar 2006
6254 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

The Governor is focused on protecting people, not playing politics


STFU
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41916 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:12 pm to
I can’t imagine being dumb enough to defend the shitstorm that is California.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19024 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:38 pm to
I have a question:

When this close to the coast why can't hydrant system be swapped to saltwater via pumping stations (yards away) as opposed to empty freshwater reservoirs miles away?
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

By Gaby Del Valle, a policy reporter. Her past work has focused on immigration politics, border surveillance technologies, and the rise of the New Right.


So, written by a stupid Marxist c##t.
Posted by Outboard
BR
Member since Jul 2015
230 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:57 pm to
Saltwater corrodes the pumps is the excuse that they use, but yet we have salt water pool pumps… The second excuse is the salt water kills the vegetation and trees. So they would rather just let it all burn to the ground!
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