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Rep. Buddy Carter introduces a bill to abolish the IRS and the Federal Income Tax

Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:31 am to
Israel will never allow this.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:34 am to
Good luck Temu Pat Sajak
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:46 am to
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bill to abolish the IRS and the Federal Income Tax
And replace them with what? What do we do with the millions that work for IRS or tax prep businesses? That's a lot of people unemployed. I would love a flat tax but how to put that many people out of work without it destroying the economy even worse?
Posted by Lptigerfan
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:53 am to
How will we send Ukraine money ?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:54 am to
The tax code is the biggest control tool congress has over the people. It will NEVER be abolished nor simplified.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:57 am to
That guy just secured his seat for life. How could anyone justify voting out a guy that introduced bills like this?
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:58 am to
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And replace them with what? What do we do with the millions that work for IRS or tax prep businesses? That's a lot of people unemployed. I would love a flat tax but how to put that many people out of work without it destroying the economy even worse?


You go to a consumption tax and retire the people at the IRS. It's very simple. If they are retired, they only need a part time job to have a full time income. We can save a minimum of $10B per year by shutting down the IRS and retiring it's employees.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:15 am to
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And replace them with what?
A fair tax.
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What do we do with the millions that work for IRS or tax prep businesses?

Tell them to learn to weld.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:17 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:18 am to
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The tax code is the biggest control tool congress has over the people. It will NEVER be abolished nor simplified.

Never order a copy of the Constitution from Shein. It may not have an Article V.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:18 am to
Ai is going to take their jobs anyway
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:18 am to
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bill to abolish the IRS and the Federal Income Tax


Can a bill overturn an amendment?
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:31 am to
Tax consumption not income - immediately any money spent (even illegally obtained income) is taxed.

Subsidize the consumption tax for EVERYONE at whatever the poverty line level would be.

Eliminate the cost of compliance with the tax code

The plan suggests that between receiving all of your paycheck and not being coerced into financial decisions based on tax compliance/ incentives that there may be a net increase in household purchasing power AND taxes collected.

I believe it has not received more support in the last 20 years because the government likes the ability to coerce behavior with the tax code and when it is explained by the media it is made to seem regressive by not covering the fact that you subsidize the tax for the people that cannot afford basic necessities.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:39 am to
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And replace them with what? What do we do with the millions that work for IRS or tax prep businesses? That's a lot of people unemployed. I would love a flat tax but how to put that many people out of work without it destroying the economy even worse?


What was that thing liberals told all the oil field peeps?

Oh yeah

“Learn to code”
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:44 am to
Does the bill include "no more homework" and "chocolate syrup running in the water fountains", and "cake and ice cream for lunch everyday" too?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:46 am to
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Can a bill overturn an amendment?
No, but there's no minimum tax rate in the Constitution. Congress can set it to 0% if it wants. But none of this is happening so...
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:49 am to
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I believe it has not received more support in the last 20 years because the government likes the ability to coerce behavior with the tax code and when it is explained by the media it is made to seem regressive by not covering the fact that you subsidize the tax for the people that cannot afford basic necessities.

Plus, critics mischaracterize the plan by portraying it as "a 23% sales tax on everything you buy at the register" without explaining that under the current income tax system, approx. 21-23% of the retail price you pay as a consumer are embedded corporate income taxes that are passed down along the distribution chain - from manufacturer to distributor to wholesaler to retailer until it's ultimately paid by the consumer.

Corporations DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES. They COLLECT them and pass it along to the IRS.
Posted by HoopsAurora
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:50 am to
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And replace them with what? What do we do with the millions that work for IRS or tax prep businesses? That's a lot of people unemployed. I would love a flat tax but how to put that many people out of work without it destroying the economy even worse?


Learn to code?
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:51 am to
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but how to put that many people out of work


I'm willing to make that sacrifice.

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