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CR from a farmers view
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:11 am
I'm a row crop farmer. Inputs prices have soared since covid. 2019 price to grow corn per acre was around 700 dollars. Last 3 years it's been around 950-1300 and acre. Commodity prices do not support this level of inputs. I used corn for the example but same for soybeans, cotton, and wheat. Rice has still remained feasible with high market prices. Intrest on farm loans is 10% as compared to 3% in 2019. Equipment has gone through the roof along with parts and labor.
2022 we had 14 inches of rain in August which rotted alot of our crops that were ready for harvest.
2023 we had a drought with 30+ days with consecutive 100 degree days.
2024 made best crop of my life and lost more money than 22 and 23 combined.
I know farmers give ourselves a bad reputation with all our whining and luxurious life styles. Not all of us are like that but 95% of us in my area are in real bad shape. Without some help from uncle Sam we will be out.
Tldr, CSB
2022 we had 14 inches of rain in August which rotted alot of our crops that were ready for harvest.
2023 we had a drought with 30+ days with consecutive 100 degree days.
2024 made best crop of my life and lost more money than 22 and 23 combined.
I know farmers give ourselves a bad reputation with all our whining and luxurious life styles. Not all of us are like that but 95% of us in my area are in real bad shape. Without some help from uncle Sam we will be out.
Tldr, CSB
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:15 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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Without some help from uncle Sam we will be out.
Born and raised around rice farmers in LA my whole life. This has been their rallying cry for 40 years that I can remember yet they all have big beautiful homes on acreage and they and their wives all drive the latest and greatest.
Forgive me for being skeptical
Also, I was a home builder in 2008. I didn't get any help. Where was my bailout?
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:16 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
My problem with farmers, is it's essentially a commune now. The government has pumped so much money into that one industry to constantly have farmers always bitching about needing more money (not you specifically). Why can't farmers adjust pricing at the market, rather than rely on government subsidies? Genuine question.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:17 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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Last 3 years it's been around 950-1300 and acre.
You must be running new equipment and leasing or paying off land. Because it’s not that high
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:20 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
Your only legitimate argument is every other industry is on the take so why not us?
It is a persuasive argument.
It is a persuasive argument.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:20 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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Without some help from uncle Sam we will be out.
Looks like we are bankrupt and on the verge of collapse. All designed by the Deepstate. Imagine being 36 trillion in debt then purposely letting 15 million illegal aliens into the country and giving them free food and shelter
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:21 am to stout
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latest and greatest.
there are massive tractor dealerships in these communities for a reason lol
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:21 am to texag7
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You must be running new equipment and leasing or paying off land. Because it’s not that high
I lease all my land. Lease all equipment. Couldn't afford parts and labor and still pay a note.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:21 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
I feel for you. But new appropriations for farm assistance should either be a stand alone bill or included in an appropriations act for Department of Agriculture. The CR, if you are going to have one, should not include new programs or spending increases. It should continue the funding at the given numbers for the given number of days until a true appropriations bill is passed.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:22 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:23 am to BugAC
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Why can't farmers adjust pricing at the market, rather than rely on government subsidies?
Farmers don’t set the prices, the market does. (Supply and demand) And you can’t just sit on your crop and wait for the market to get to your liking. It’s not physically possible
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:23 am to YumYum Sauce
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there are massive tractor dealerships in these communities for a reason lol
The town I am referring to has grown now but 30'ish years ago we had 3 gas stations and the only other retail business in the whole area was a Massey Ferguson dealer. They didn't build it in the city 30 miles South. They built it right by the rice farms.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:24 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
My father in law does corn up in west Illinois. Prices are up but they aren’t struggling.
Long story short. Live within your means. When your means change your living also needs to. There are ups and downs in every industry.
As a country we need to learn to cut costs for the next few years. As individuals we need to do the same.
We gotta get Biden out so Trump and DOGE can stop some of this crap in its track.
Long story short. Live within your means. When your means change your living also needs to. There are ups and downs in every industry.
As a country we need to learn to cut costs for the next few years. As individuals we need to do the same.
We gotta get Biden out so Trump and DOGE can stop some of this crap in its track.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:24 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
Don't vote Democrat.
Biden's energy polices raised oil, plus the subsudies offered for corn to produce ethanol.
The only farmers needing subsudies are small time operations.
Biden's energy polices raised oil, plus the subsudies offered for corn to produce ethanol.
The only farmers needing subsudies are small time operations.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:25 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
What kind of vehicle do you and your wife drive?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:26 am to Jack Daniel
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What kind of vehicle do you and your wife drive?
And how old and how big is his house?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:26 am to DOLLARTREEBALLA
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I'm a row crop farmer. Inputs prices have soared since covid. 2019 price to grow corn per acre was around 700 dollars. Last 3 years it's been around 950-1300 and acre.
Nah, you are just a greedy frick.
Signed the democrats.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:27 am to stout
OP is a moron his username is dollatreeballer and he’s trying to claim he’s a farmer who is concerned 

Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:27 am to PJinAtl
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feel for you. But new appropriations for farm assistance should either be a stand alone bill or included in an appropriations act for Department of Agriculture. The CR, if you are going to have one, should not include new programs or spending increases. It should continue the funding at the given numbers for the given number of days until a true appropriations bill is passed.
I agree 100% i would rather save our nation than my farm. I'm glad the cr was rejected. To much bs. I'm just saying that agriculture is in a bad spot right now. Not looking for sympathy or saying we deserve the money. But I will say we deserve it more than illegal, Isreal, and the ukraine
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:29 am to Lugnut
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Farmers don’t set the prices, the market does.
Which is based on the price farmer's sell to the market. Let's say you want to sell your corn for $1/head. The market, if it wants corn will have to then adjust their pricing. The problem, is that farmers don't have to sell their produce for that much, because a large portion of their revenue comes from government subsidies, which artificially keeps the price of product down.
If the government stepped completely away, then the free market would do it's job and prices could still be low, but based on production/efficiency of the farmer, and prices set at the market.
I understand the last part is "pie in the sky" free market economics, which is not practiced without government interference.
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