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Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:19 am
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2166 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:19 am
I just watched a video which says I am able to redirect HSA contributions to an investment account. Then when I have a medical bill I can still submit for reimbursement or let it ride as an IRA. When I pull it out and can prove it’s for medical expenses, it’s tax free. This sounds to good to be true.

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Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13326 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:32 am to
I thought it was fairly common. I keep a chunk of money in the "spend" side of the HSA and shift over whatever is about about $1k to the invest side. It's not much, but it beats the catastrophically shitty interest rates that the HSA spend side typically has.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32322 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:37 am to
investing in an HSA is pretty common. triple tax advantaged. I have about 60K invested right now
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1577 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:46 am to
It's true. That's why some people consider HSA to be even more valuable than a 401k match. No other account type is triple tax advantaged like HSA (tax deductible contributions, tax deferred growth, tax free withdrawal for eligible medical).

One strategy is to pay out of pocket if u can afford it and let the HSA grow. Then in the future re-imburse yourself. There is no limitation currently when you can re-imburse expenses.

I've got over $50k in my HSA (all of it in VTI or equivalent) I keep track of expenses (anything over $50). I currently have over $10k in expenses and will re-imburse myself in the future when I need some tax free income after I've retired.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10957 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:46 am to
As other have said its triple tax advantaged for one. I have been maxing mine since 2012 and have it all in FXAIX. I don't touch it and won't until I am 65. If I live that long
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19130 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:52 am to
I learned on this board that the play is to pound the HSA but pay cash for medical expenses if you’re able so it can grow tax deferred. Simple concept but never crossed my mind.
Posted by Lawyers_Guns_Money
Member since Apr 2015
438 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:57 am to
I've never spent a dime out of my HSA, pay for everything out of pocket and invest the HSA
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4984 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Then when I have a medical bill I can still submit for reimbursement or let it ride as an IRA.


Yes, but if you put in the max for the year, use some, you can not reload it for that year.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36713 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Yes, but if you put in the max for the year, use some, you can not reload it for that year.


What?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4984 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Yes, but if you put in the max for the year, use some, you can not reload it for that year.


What?


If you put in lets say $8,550 (the max for a family,$4,550 for single) for the year, have a surgery and pull 2k to pay for it, you're not able to add the 2k back in the same year.
Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
770 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:02 am to
Max out your HSA every year and don’t withdraw from it if possible. Let it ride just like a Roth IRA, but better. Invest it in a Bitcoin ETF for the very long term.

To do this, you need an HSA with a brokerage account, such as Fidelity, not a bank

When you are old, you will have a ton of money for medical expenses and long term care.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36713 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:12 am to
quote:

f you put in lets say $8,550 (the max for a family,$4,550 for single) for the year, have a surgery and pull 2k to pay for it, you're not able to add the 2k back in the same year


I understand, your original comment still makes no sense
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25013 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:22 am to
My provider requires I keep $1K in the cash balance but there is a setting to automatically roll anything in excess into investments.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30330 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

No other account type is triple tax advantaged like HSA (tax deductible contributions, tax deferred growth, tax free withdrawal for eligible medical).


Had no idea.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83693 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:44 pm to
I've never done an HSA, but new employer will provide some matching funds if I do...

Can I get the 5th grade explanation of how to make the most of it? Max can contribute? At what point can you spend on non-health stuff? Etc...
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2757 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:08 pm to
Set it and forget it is how to maximize.

Save all your medical receipts. At this time that’s the only way for tax free withdrawals.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
4962 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:59 pm to
Question - how do you do this if it's in a company plan in a bank account?

if i have 10k in it, i can do a wire transfer out and into my Fidelity account?

And down the road as long as the "principle" is used for medical expenses I am ok?

appreciate any feedback













Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
770 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:37 pm to
Open a new account with Fidelity, specifically an HSA Account. Their plans allow for any type of investments within their universe, on their platform. Mutual Funds, Stocks, ETF’s etc.

Just do a transfer from the account your company provides, over to your new private HSA and do the same transfer annually. Same principle as moving an IRA from one institution to another.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83693 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:33 am to
quote:

Open a new account with Fidelity, specifically an HSA Account. Their plans allow for any type of investments within their universe, on their platform. Mutual Funds, Stocks, ETF’s etc.




So basically use the HSA to get tax free gains like a Roth, but its pre-tax?

Can use those funds to pay for medical expenses, but should pay out of pocket and let that to continue compounding interest?

After 60, can withdraw penalty free for any reason?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10820 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Can use those funds to pay for medical expenses, but should pay out of pocket and let that to continue compounding interest?

This is what I do. Whenever I have an expense and I pay it, I save the bill to a Drive folder. If I need money in an emergency for anything in the future, I can submit one or more of those old bills for reimbursement by the HSA.

That being said, I still have used the HSA to pay off an expense directly, though I try to keep that at a minimum.
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