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It's in the Game: Madden NFL (Amazon Documentary on EA Sports/Madden)

Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:50 am
As a kid growing up in the 90's and Madden being about the only game I played, it was a pretty fun 4 episode documentary. Pretty cool behind the scenes look at it's early stages up until today.

Never knew that Joe Montana football was basically the same exact game except dumbed down on purpose by EA so Madden would be the better game.

They went into detail about the competition Madden has had throughout the years and I forgot just how good NFL2K on Dreamcast was. It was for sure a better game at the time but I never knew what was the death of them or kept up with that because I'm not really a gamer. NFL basically didn't like that 2K put the game on sale for $20 (which worked and sold a lot of games because of it) so they stripped the licensing from them and that was a death note. So killed off that competition despite it being the better game. After that, Madden never really had any legit competitor.

Was cool to see how involved Madden was with it as well. That dude was just awesome.

I'd give it a watch if you're a Madden fan and want to know the history on it/behind the scenes look into development and the start of EA sports.

Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:42 am to
Jumped around a little too much I didn’t care about the current day propaganda crap and them discussing who would go on the cover that was fake …..but…man I’ll never forget the Christmas I got a Dreamcast with NFL 2K, that was such a huge step up from any football game I’d ever played. Damn shame EA has a monopoly on NFL games

Do they go into detail about them getting exclusive rights? I haven’t finished yet
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:50 am to
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Do they go into detail about them getting exclusive rights?


yes


As someone who grew up in that age and was not their target audience (sports don't pay my bills, why should i pay theirs), I love a good documentary, and this one was decent.
Posted by Towelie
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:53 am to
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NFL2K on Dreamcast


Loved that game, the swim move you got with the left trigger on defense was unstoppable. Used to wreck some QBs with that coming off the edge.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Jumped around a little too much I didn’t care about the current day propaganda crap


What was the propaganda? Honestly don't recall anything or never gave any thought to there being any.

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man I’ll never forget the Christmas I got a Dreamcast with NFL 2K, that was such a huge step up from any football game I’d ever played. Damn shame EA has a monopoly on NFL games

Do they go into detail about them getting exclusive rights? I haven’t finished yet


Yes, mainly in the last two episodes. I think in episode 3 they talked about Playstation "GameDay". And how they didn't even release a Madden 96 to compete with it. But that was never really much of a competitor.

The main discussion about exclusive rights was in the final episode when they went into the competition with Dreamcast and 2K.

Showed some very legit criticism with Madden in that it seems like when they stopped having competition, the quality of their product went stale. Madden 04/05 was kind of peak gameplay and it's been downhill since then or has had very little improvement and how they're trying to get it back to the glory days.

Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:10 pm to
Really enjoyed it, especially seeing Madden's involvement behind the scenes. One thing that annoyed me was when they got really sappy about helping kids live out their football dreams virtually. They acted like they were saving starving orphans.

I'd also like to add, frick EA and their exclusive license.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:14 pm to
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One thing that annoyed me was when they got really sappy about helping kids live out their football dreams virtually. They acted like they were saving starving orphans.


Yea well after you talk about kids playing video games 24/7 for years they had to throw in some "O yea this is a good thing" in there to make it look better.
Posted by pevetohead
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:52 pm to
Did they talk about how they have been phoning it in the last 20 years and that the Madden franchise peaked during the PS2 era? Or how truly horrible EA is as a company to it’s fans and employees?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:23 pm to
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Did they talk about how they have been phoning it in the last 20 years and that the Madden franchise peaked during the PS2 era?


Yes. They openly admit that 04/05 was their peak gameplay and they are long past their glory days and that's where they are trying to get back to.

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Or how truly horrible EA is as a company to it’s fans and employees?


No. The main people interviewed were the founders, executive producers, and early year guys that helped make the game what is was. Very few current employees were interviewed.
Posted by artisticsavant
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:29 pm to
I've got it on my watchlist, but my only question is, do they show any of the players getting run over on field by the ambulance from the earliest versions? I wish that was still in the game.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:41 pm to
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I didn’t care about the current day propaganda crap

the current game is arse cheeks, did they mention that it has turned into a big money making gambling scheme to get kids to spend money off their parents credit cards? havent bought madden in 3 years, the game is arse.

I did buy NCAA but havent played a single game of ultimate team
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:55 pm to
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I've got it on my watchlist, but my only question is, do they show any of the players getting run over on field by the ambulance from the earliest versions? I wish that was still in the game.


They did not. I don't ever remember that, that's hilarious.

But I think the first one I ever played was 95 or 96.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:43 pm to
NFL 2K and Madden 03/04 are the goats.
Posted by sqerty
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:45 pm to
I only played Blitz
Posted by Mstate
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:12 pm to
Madden ultimate team is stupid and they should take it out and put all eyes on improving gameplay and franchise/dynasty/road to glory
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:42 pm to
I swore off EA football games after 2k Football was killed off. 2K5 was such a superior game.

I didn't play another video football game until my buddies talked me into playing CFB 25.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:44 pm to
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They did not. I don't ever remember that, that's hilarious.



Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:11 pm to
Barry Sanders was such a beast in that game.
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:02 pm to
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But I think the first one I ever played was 95 or 96.


96 Madden, I could beat anyone with the absolute worst team. I knew that game in and out. Super Nintendo.

Loved making a player in that game. Took a pencil across 2 buttons and made a RB called Jim Thorpe that ran a hair under 4.2 40yd. Unfricking stoppable
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Jumped around a little too much


This, this, this. Show is interesting and enjoyed parts but its a production mess.
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