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Would Trump support the State of Jefferson?

Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5165 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:58 pm
Northern California and Southern Oregon are strongly republican but have no voice. They've been trying to break off to form the 51st state and even have a name for it, **The State of Jefferson**. They've got a flag, too. Recently their bid to break away has lost steam, but if like to see it happen.
When I hiked through there on the Pacific Crest Trail, I was pleasantly surprised to find their politics so different from the rest of the state. I met a lot of great people and have been hoping they'd succeed.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18897 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:00 pm to
Greater Idaho. Add Eastern Washington to that and give Idaho more electoral votes.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180621 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
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I met a lot of great people and have been hoping they'd succeed.



They are hoping to succeed in their effort to secede?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19542 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:03 pm to
You can't make new states out of parts of old states.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32964 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
OP hopes they don’t secede from their efforts to succeed
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6488 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:05 pm to
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You can't make new states out of parts of old states.


West Virginia enters the chat.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19542 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:09 pm to
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West Virginia enters the chat.

I doubt that Congress would approve it. It would open the floodgates. Also, the California and Oregon legislatures would have to approve.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32595 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
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You can't make new states out of parts of old states without the consent of the state being split


FIFY
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19542 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:12 pm to
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You can't make new states out of parts of old states without the consent of the state being split

AND Congress.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9841 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
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doubt that Congress would approve it. It would open the floodgates.


GOP wont do it because Democrats would demand statehood for DC too.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
Wrong.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19542 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:30 pm to
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GOP wont do it because Democrats would demand statehood for DC too.

That's what I mean. If they allowed California to break up, then Texas would be next. Then New York, then others. It would be a mess.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:31 pm to
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You can't make new states out of parts of old states.


Tell that to West Virginia.
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
915 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:49 pm to
Not sure I approve this. This is essentially just gerrymandering with electoral votes instead of congressional districts. At least that's how blue people will see it.

I totally understand why those rural areas would want to break away though.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
36490 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Greater Idaho. Add Eastern Washington to that and give Idaho more electoral votes.

Give Eastern California to Nevada and southeastern California to AZ, and accomplish the same for those states. A Nevada that extended to Bakersfield would be permanently Red.
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1673 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:06 pm to
THAT would be the only way I would hope anyone would allow PR and DC to become states...if there are two sure adds on the Republican side.

Of course, who would have ever guess that when Hawaii and Alaska were added, Hawaii was the Republican state and Alaska was the Democrat state.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36218 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Would Trump support the State of Jefferson?

Doesn’t matter really. Neither Oregon nor California would support it, which is required. And neither could Congress most likely.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36218 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:08 pm to
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GOP wont do it because Democrats would demand statehood for DC too.

Not exactly on topic, but DC outside of a very small federal, non residential sector around the Capitol/WH/mall, needs to be given back to Maryland.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26121 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Tell that to West Virginia.


And Maine.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17921 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:32 pm to
They should try gerrymandering a state vote like the territories did early on or like the blacks do now
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