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The Rice job. You have to go get a triple option guy.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:05 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:05 am
Just like Monken at Army. You control the clock; you keep your defense off the field as much as possible. You try to average 35 minutes time of possession for the entire season.
Ken Hatfield in his later coaching years was successful at Rice doing this. The flexbone.
Niumatalolo did it at Navy.
I don't know any young guys who could be considered triple option guys, unless you go down a division or two.
So IMO Rice needs to comb 1-AA or Division II for their new head coach. The alternative is just doing the same old thing that will never work there.
Maybe steal the OC at Army and roll with it. He played QB at Furman. He's young. He's kicking arse at Army.
Ken Hatfield in his later coaching years was successful at Rice doing this. The flexbone.
Niumatalolo did it at Navy.
I don't know any young guys who could be considered triple option guys, unless you go down a division or two.
So IMO Rice needs to comb 1-AA or Division II for their new head coach. The alternative is just doing the same old thing that will never work there.
Maybe steal the OC at Army and roll with it. He played QB at Furman. He's young. He's kicking arse at Army.
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:07 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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Maybe steal the OC at Army and roll with it. He played QB at Furman. He's young. He's kicking arse at Army.
He could hire Gerry DiNardo as senior analyst. Seriously!
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:20 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Rehire Todd Graham and mandate him to hire a triple option OC
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:21 am to Harry Rex Vonner
The NCAA banned cut blocks so it’s made those offenses less effective at leveling the playing field for these types of schools. That’s why you see all the academy schools migrate slowly away from pure wing option offense into a more modern spread option offense and more passing included
Posted on 11/9/24 at 1:33 pm to wildtigercat93
NCAA are morons. Cut blocks don't hurt people nearly as much as linemen getting rolled up on during pass plays.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 2:35 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Rehire Todd Graham and mandate him to hire a triple option OC
Kind of negates the entire reason you would hire Todd Graham, which is a stupid idea to begin with
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:11 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
They did that in the 90s with Hatfield. It worked for a while. They just need to relax the academic standards (assuming they are still stringent) and put some money into the program and hire a quality head coach.
Same solution as everybody else.
Same solution as everybody else.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:16 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
How did that work out for Ga tech a few years back.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 6:40 am to mrbroker
quote:He had 8 winnings season, 1 .500 season that got him to a total of 9 bowl games, 1 ACC Championship and 4 division titles. All in 11 seasons not Kirby Smart, but they were competing and winning.
How did that work out for Ga tech a few years back.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 5:09 pm to HangmanPage1
Read option with an RPO component like Malzahn with Nick Marshall seems like you could win some games at a small school.
Just recruit the best athlete you can possibly find to play QB, a couple decent RBs and a big smart white guy tight end with sure hands.
Just recruit the best athlete you can possibly find to play QB, a couple decent RBs and a big smart white guy tight end with sure hands.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 9:56 pm to mrbroker
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How did that work out for Ga tech a few years back.
Paul Johnson went 82-61 over 11 seasons and retired after a 7-6 season.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:23 am to YouKnowImRight
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NCAA are morons. Cut blocks don't hurt people nearly as much as linemen getting rolled up on during pass plays.
Agreed. People always say it causes more injuries, but show me stats that cut blocks significantly cause more injuries. You can't. This was a common complaint when Paul Johnson was at GT. You can still do cut blocks in the NFL and high school; if it was that dangerous they wouldn't allow it.
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How did that work out for Ga tech a few years back.
Hmm lets see. Paul Johnson was inducted to the college football hall of fame last year. His GT career included an Orange Bowl win. So it worked out pretty well.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:08 am to Harry Rex Vonner
If Tulane can be successful no reason Rice can't be with a larger talent base in Houston
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:31 pm to nicholastiger
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Vanderbilt offensive coordinator Tim Beck, Sam Houston head coach K.C. Keeler, and Ohio head coach Tim Albin have emerged as serious candidates for the Rice Owls opening, according to multiple sources.
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Beck, who is currently calling plays for Vanderbilt in the SEC, worked his way up the staff at Division II Pittsburg State, eventually becoming the head coach of his alma mater in 2010. He led the Gorillas to an 82-35 record and the 2011 DII national championship. He was an offensive analyst at TCU in 2021 before following Jerry Kill to New Mexico State, where the pair found quarterback Diego Pavia.
Keeler is the only head coach in history to win national titles at two separate FCS programs, winning it as his alma mater, Delaware, in 2003 and Sam Houston in 2020. The only active college football coaches with more wins than Keeler are Brian Kelly and Mack Brown. He’s only six wins from moving into the Top 20 all-time. His Bearkats are currently 8-2 and in contention for a CUSA championship in Year 2 as an FBS program. They beat Rice in Week 1.
Albin is 55-27 since becoming the head coach at Ohio in 2021. He arrived there in 2005 as the offensive coordinator. He was the head coach at Northwestern Oklahoma State, his alma mater, from 1997-99, leading them to the NAIA national championship in 1999 before joining the staff at Nebraska.
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:28 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Rice ran off Hatfield when he ran the Flexbone. They need to figure out how to get better athletes than what Northshore is running out there first.
I have watched Northshore play twice this year on TV, and they are loaded with talent.
I have watched Northshore play twice this year on TV, and they are loaded with talent.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:49 pm to Dr RC
All 3 of those jobs are better than Rice.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:03 pm to Cleathecat
Are they? Sam Houston and Ohio's stadiums makes the stadium at Rice look like a palace and the Rice gig pays at least $300k more.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:26 pm to nicholastiger
It took Tulane a decade to build what we have; it started by putting a lot of money in the program and then hiring one of the top G5 coaches in the country.
Looking at that list, Rice looks they have different goals: they look like they trying to be AAC competitive, decent bowl game, that sort of thing.
Looking at that list, Rice looks they have different goals: they look like they trying to be AAC competitive, decent bowl game, that sort of thing.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:02 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Yale head coach Tony Reno, who led the Bulldogs to an Ivy League title this past fall, has recently surfaced as a favorite to replace Mike Bloomgren with the Owls.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:17 am to Overbrook
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Looking at that list, Rice looks they have different goals: they look like they trying to be AAC competitive, decent bowl game, that sort of thing.
It's a tiny school with a majority of students from out of state, and 14% international. They basically de-emphasized sports without officially dropping them, and just don't have enough alumni who care anymore.
The massive stadium is a strange relic from a different era, and different version of the school when it was more associated with local new money.
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