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How presidential elections are impacted by a 100 million year old coastline

Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:11 am
Fascinating (to me, at least) and nerdy article regarding the ancient geology of the Cretaceous period and how it affected current day American South.

Historical, not so much 'political' in light of current events.


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During the Cretaceous, 139-65 million years ago, shallow seas covered much of the southern United States. These tropical waters were productive–giving rise to tiny marine plankton with carbonate skeletons which overtime accumulated into massive chalk formations. The chalk, both alkaline and porous, lead to fertile and well-drained soils in a band, mirroring that ancient coastline and stretching across the now much drier South. This arc of rich and dark soils in Alabama has long been known as the Black Belt. But many, including Booker T. Washington, coopted the term to refer to the entire Southern band. Washington wrote in his 1901 autobiography, Up from Slavery, “The term was first used to designate a part of the country which was distinguished by the color of the soil. The part of the country possessing this thick, dark, and naturally rich soil…”


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Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:13 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:14 am to
Nerds create their own reality because they're blinded to the real one.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:15 am to
It's literally 'grounded'.
Posted by tigeralum06
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:52 am to
Seems like the election wasn’t affected at all by the black belt.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:53 am to
Not the outcome, but the voting sure was.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:02 am to


Yep. I live right in the dead center of the Black Belt.
Family has been here since 1816.

The story is a few descendants were traveling back home from the Battle of New Orleans, through Alabama, on the way back to NC. They came across this very fertile valley in what is today Dallas County. They packed their belongings and headed down to Alabama to settle and buy a piece of land. It was part of the Mississippi territory at that time, and not yet a state.
We’ve had part of the same land in the family for over 200 years now. Not as large of a holding as it once was, but held on to something that many years.
I don’t know of another family in the entire county where that is the case.
The Black Belt has a lot of old money, large land owners, with most of the land purchased in the 1830’s - 1850’s, when cotton exploded in this region.
A smaller version of the Delta.

Dallas county WAS one of the top five riches counties in the country leading up to the Civil War. Now it’s one of poorest.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:46 am to
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

The Black Belt has a lot of old money, large land owners


You forgot to mention the best deer hunting in the state.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 1:08 pm to
There’s a lot of catfish farms in the black belt region
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:15 pm to

See? Ancient geology having real world impacts on our lives today.

Also, no dinosaurs lived on Hawaii. Because the islands didn't exist!
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

You forgot to mention the best deer hunting in the state.


I was about to ask how's the hunting? Y'all got plenty of turkeys?
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Dallas county WAS one of the top five riches counties in the country leading up to the Civil War. Now it’s one of poorest


1993 Nafta finished it off. If you are in Uniontown AL then you understand what I am talking about
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Also, no dinosaurs lived on Hawaii. Because the islands didn't exist!

Posted by Saunson69
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:08 pm to
I don't get this. Same could be said for the Mississippi River Flood Plain and Red River Flood Plain in Louisiana. Both are black where the larger towns are Shreveport, Alexandria, Natchitoches, Nola, BR, Monroe.

The flood plains in Louisiana are actually more nutrient rich than Alabama which is why nearly all those parishes were 2/3 black or more during Slavery. Even today, all of those cities named earlier are over 50% black. And that will only grow as more White Louisianians are going to college and moving to Texas post-grad.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:28 pm to
This article is 12 years old and you just pulled it out of nowhere
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:45 pm to
I sea what you did there.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

This article is 12 years old and you just pulled it out of nowhere

To be fair, the dust was knocked off of the idea several days ago. This one gets rotated through with every election it seems.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:01 pm to
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I don’t know of another family in the entire county where that is the case.

My family holds a piece of land in Lafayette Parish that has been in the family since a Spanish land grant around 1780, a few years after arriving from Canada. I'm the 8th generation. You might be surprised at how many Acadian families still hold land in Louisiana from before admission to the Union.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:33 pm to
It’s news to me!

But sure, election cycle stuff for when we’re sick of red v blue inanity.
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