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Nazism is not the same as racism

Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:54 pm
The MSM is conflating nazi ism with racism and the 2 are not aligned

Nazism is a form of socialism . It has nothing to do with race. Hitler happened to be a racist AND a nazi but that’s like saying democrats are racist because democrat senator Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK.

Trump has never exhibited nazi principles. He’s a clear capitalist and advocate of our republican representative system of government.
As for racism, I haven’t seen any evidence of that. He chose Vance as vp and his wife is dark skinned of Indian descent. His daughter married a Jewish man.

So this whole backlash is a confused desperation straw grab.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:55 pm to
You're trying to apply reason to emotional lunatics and writing harangues about Nazis as a result. Go get some fresh air.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:56 pm to
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backlash is a confused desperation straw grab.
this defines everything Democrats do
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:00 pm to
Trump building gas chambers for his Orthodox Jewish grandkids, wood doors and all.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:01 pm to
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You're trying to apply reason to emotional lunatics
Posted by South21
Member since Jul 2019
1643 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:10 pm to
A book could be written on this but Hitler's Germany had private companies. Much of what was controlled by the state came about due to the crisis after WWI. He was not a socialist/communist not matter what was in the name of the party.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:14 pm to
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Much of what was controlled by the state came about due to the crisis after WWI. He was not a socialist/communist not matter what was in the name of the party.


He wasn't but a big chunk of Weimar Germany was so they embraced it. It was a point of contention early on with Hitler and those who thought they should cast a wider net to capture the worker voice.

It worked.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35765 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:19 pm to
Sure but trying to explain the difference is like trying to explain the difference between pedophiles and hebophiles. You're gonna sound like a Nazi/pedo.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35445 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:01 pm to
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that’s like saying democrats are racist because democrat senator Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK.

Democrats were quite literally the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and the past 60 years of policies that have been carefully designed to keep black populations poor, violent and confined to inner cities.

It has little to do with Robert Byrd being a Klansman. Every one of them should be fitted for a white pointy hat and a sheet. The modern DNC is just a continuation of the permanent party of racism.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Nazism is a form of socialism . It has nothing to do with race


Are you special ed? It has everything to do with race.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:12 pm to
Communism and civic socialism have liked millions more than national socialism yet they still exist all over the world.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:14 pm to
Well Nazism was the German manifestation of fascism which at its inception included Jews
Posted by themunch
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71333 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:15 pm to
Hitler did not really care for Karl Marx.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9630 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:45 pm to
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Nazism is a form of socialism . It has nothing to do with race.


No offense, but this is false. The racial component was essential to the Nazi brand of fascism. There is no separating the two. The regime was built on and prioritized racial hygiene and eugenics as its central pillars.

LINK

This book is a good scholarly source describing how it worked.

I don’t like the Dems and their BS… but the Nazis… they were all about race.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Nazism is a form of socialism . It has nothing to do with race.
Why do you feel the need to make this argument? Naziism is the ideology of the Nazis, a political party of Germany, who were socialists and racists. Naziism’s marking characteristics are socialism and racism. Why are you trying to separate it out?

It seems like maybe you’re conflating Naziism with fascism
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1723 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:52 pm to
Nazism was German for “National Socialist”, which was a party of ultra nationalists that Hitler took over and led to power pushing Aryan purity.
It strongly opposed Marxism and societal degeneracy, which was prevalent in the Weimar era.
Oddly enough, that period mirrors our society today, with trannies and open sexual perversions being celebrated.
Anyways, Hitler proposed that all of those things that were destroying their culture were Jewish constructs and ideas meant to subvert the Aryan identity.
So it was explicitly about race. It wanted to segregate from Judaism and other races within Germany.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
18419 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:52 pm to
Racism was pretty tied into Nazism. The main pillar of Nazism was Aryan supremacy (which you can debate if Aryan ethnicity is made up) and the idea of building a dominant Aryan state with either the subservience or removal of members of unfavorable groups. People only call it socialist because they slapped “National Socialist” on the party name to pull in more votes. Hitler himself hated socialists and considered socialism/communism to be the main existential threat to the German state. If you want to talk about fascism, in theory someone could be fascist and not racist but Nazism has a racial component.

As for calling Trump a Nazi, the left and MSM do that because it’s all they’ve known how to do for a decade.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85844 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:53 pm to
There actually wasn’t much different between the Nazis and the Soviets. Both anti capitalist genocidal regimes that preached their utopia on earth.

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Leninism and Nazism contained all the political and ideological ingredients of the totalitarian order - party monopoly on power, ideological uniformity and regimentation, censorship, demonization of the "people's enemy," besieged fortress mentality, secret police terror, concentration camps, and, no less important, the obsession with the shaping of the "New Man."



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The ideology behind the tragedy of Communism and Nazism is aptly summarized in this apocalyptic statement as the vision of a superior elite whose utopian goals sanctify the most barbaric methods - the denial of the right to life to those who are defined as "degenerate parasites and predators," the deliberate de-humanization of the victims.


This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3992 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:01 pm to
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Hitler himself hated socialists and considered socialism/communism to be the main existential threat to the German state.
Wrong. Hitler hated the communists who were “left”-socialists. The left-right political spectrum was used during this era to describe the differences among the socialists in Weimar Germany.

Socialism is an economic system marked by public ownership and central economic planning. Hitler was most certainly a socialist.

Edited to correct incorrect statement about the origin of left vs right wing
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 10:34 pm
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17541 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:51 pm to
No uh, it’s the same. Kermala told us
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