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Why have Nuss’ Heisman Odds gotten worse?
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:06 pm
I’m a Hunt Palmer fan, but I’d first like to address the misinformation that Hunt has recently been pumping on the airwaves. Nuss hasn’t been climbing up the board on the Heisman odds, in fact, the opposite has happened. I took Nuss to win the Heisman before the season started at +2200. Nuss’ odds didn’t move after Ole Miss game, and he was at +3000. I just checked and he is currently sitting at +3500. My question is, why wouldn’t his odds improve after the OM and Arkansas wins? Why would they get worse?
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:08 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Because everyone hates LSU. It is US against the world! 
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:09 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:09 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
The closer we get to december, the more guys like Jeanty and Cam Ward separate, and the gap widens between #1 and #10. That said, if Nuss puts up great games this week and November 9, he'll be top 4-5 in odds. I also have a +2200 ticket from July
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:09 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Probably more of a result of the guys in front of him starting to distance themselves?
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:10 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
I think it has more to do with the top 3 pulling away from everyone else.
Jeanty, Ward, and Gabriel are lighting it up.
Jeanty, Ward, and Gabriel are lighting it up.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:11 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Nuss hasn't really played like a Hesiman winner the last 2 weeks.
He wasn't great against Ole Miss outside of 4th quarter/OT.
He threw for 230 and 0TDs against Arkansas.
Makes complete sense that his odds would have gone down.
I still think he's been awesome the last 2 games in grand scheme of things, but it's not best player in nation stuff.
He wasn't great against Ole Miss outside of 4th quarter/OT.
He threw for 230 and 0TDs against Arkansas.
Makes complete sense that his odds would have gone down.
I still think he's been awesome the last 2 games in grand scheme of things, but it's not best player in nation stuff.
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:12 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
If he comes out against A&M and Bama and lights it up, look out.
The other guys are really playing well right now though.
The other guys are really playing well right now though.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:13 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
There are more electric players in the game thus far during the season. It’s not that Nuss isn’t crushing it’s just not quite the eye candy you have with other players so far. October & November are pivotal for winning this trophy.
The most electrifying player in the country is Travis Hunter, no matter how much of a dbag is is.
The most electrifying player in the country is Travis Hunter, no matter how much of a dbag is is.
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:14 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
I took Nuss to win the Heisman before the season started as well at +5500
What crappy arse book did you find that had him at +2200?
What crappy arse book did you find that had him at +2200?
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:26 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
In case you missed it, it’s about the statistics first, and then intangibles.
The stats started falling and his odds started falling. He’s going to need 3500 yards passing minimum to be in the conversation. The current pace, especially the last two games doesn’t get him there.
If LSU were to win the SEC and make the finals in the NC, the stats might not have to be that good. The other QBs competitors have an advantage because of their schedules. Regardless, it’s still too early to be talking about body of work for the season awards.
The stats started falling and his odds started falling. He’s going to need 3500 yards passing minimum to be in the conversation. The current pace, especially the last two games doesn’t get him there.
If LSU were to win the SEC and make the finals in the NC, the stats might not have to be that good. The other QBs competitors have an advantage because of their schedules. Regardless, it’s still too early to be talking about body of work for the season awards.
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:27 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
He is currently +3000 on FanDuel. The odds change from the preseason because players start to pull away. The best odds for a single player before the season was around +700. You had a bunch of players around the +2000 to +4000 range because they can get people to bet on them and the books know the majority of them will never even have a chance to win it. As players get better odds (Ward +200, Jenty +200, Gabriel +350) the other players odds have to get worse as they have more ground to make up.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:45 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Well last week he threw for 230 yards and 0 TDs.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:47 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
What were Cam Ward and Ashton Jeantys odds when you placed your bet?
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:48 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
It’s a statistical award. He scored zero TDs against Arkansas. It’s that simple
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:48 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Because there's almost zero chance that the Heisman trophy goes to anyone other than Ashton Jeanty, Travis Hunter, or Cam Ward
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:49 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
His stats aren’t even close to Heisman level.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:50 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Nus has slow feet and can not get away from the rush. He also can't run with the ball.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:57 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
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My question is, why wouldn’t his odds improve after the OM and Arkansas wins? Why would they get worse?
Nuss stats from the 2 games combined:
45/85 (52.94%)
570 yds (285 YPG)
3 TD
2 INT
Let's look at Cam Ward's last 2 games:
56/85 (65.88%)
756 yds (378 YPG)
6 TD
1 INT
Plus Miami is still undefeated. So yeah, it stands to reason that Ward would pull further ahead, thus lengthening Nuss's odds since the Heisman is largely a stats award and being on a higher ranked team can only help.
I do think pro scouts are starting to take notice of Nuss though. Before the season he was around 9 or 10 on most QB mock draft lists, he's now hovering around 5. Those last 2 throws in the Ole Miss game had scouts and QB consultants nearly jacking off when they broke down the film.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:09 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Including the MWC Championship and a bowl game. Ashton Jeanty is on pace for 2912 yards this season. The Heisman should be his if he keeps up his production. But it will probably go to Ward or Gabriel because they're high performing QBs on teams that will be contenders for a playoff spot.
Last year, Jayden Daniels set the NCAA Record for Passing Efficiency AND ran for over 1000+ yards. That is the kind of performance it takes to win the Heisman on a non-playoff team.
Last year, Jayden Daniels set the NCAA Record for Passing Efficiency AND ran for over 1000+ yards. That is the kind of performance it takes to win the Heisman on a non-playoff team.
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