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College Football is More Exciting
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:25 am
Playoff means more meaningful football in December.
NIL has given G5 teams better players and has given traditional bottom feeder P5 schools a chance at parity in conference. Vanderbilt win likely doesn't happen without NIL.
LSU could realistically lose 2 more games and have a shot to win the title. That'd be inconceivable (wallace shawn shoutout) just 10 years ago.
You're seeing possibly the best college RB season in history at Boise State, and the guy actually has a shot at the Heisman depending on Boise's year. There's a real chance at a Boise State Heisman winning runningback because if they stay undefeated they will be seeded 12.
Those bullshite Friday night games all of a sudden are crucial matchups because each week means more to the teams. Instead of a 2 loss P5 team phoning it in, they know that field is wider now.
Games we're going to regularly get to see now:
Oregon-Michigan
OU-LSU
Texas-Bama
USC-Ohio State
Penn State-Washington
I really don't care about the players upholding some weird "moral" that people 55+ have ascribed to them. I haven't been this invested in a college football season since 2019.
NIL has given G5 teams better players and has given traditional bottom feeder P5 schools a chance at parity in conference. Vanderbilt win likely doesn't happen without NIL.
LSU could realistically lose 2 more games and have a shot to win the title. That'd be inconceivable (wallace shawn shoutout) just 10 years ago.
You're seeing possibly the best college RB season in history at Boise State, and the guy actually has a shot at the Heisman depending on Boise's year. There's a real chance at a Boise State Heisman winning runningback because if they stay undefeated they will be seeded 12.
Those bullshite Friday night games all of a sudden are crucial matchups because each week means more to the teams. Instead of a 2 loss P5 team phoning it in, they know that field is wider now.
Games we're going to regularly get to see now:
Oregon-Michigan
OU-LSU
Texas-Bama
USC-Ohio State
Penn State-Washington
I really don't care about the players upholding some weird "moral" that people 55+ have ascribed to them. I haven't been this invested in a college football season since 2019.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:26 am to Odysseus32
The regular season is pretty meh now.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:27 am to Odysseus32
There really is a generational divide for the first time ever in the sport.
As you mentioned, the 55 and up crowd view the current landscape of the sport way different than someone let’s say in their late 20’s.
As you mentioned, the 55 and up crowd view the current landscape of the sport way different than someone let’s say in their late 20’s.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:28 am to Odysseus32
The playoff system has ruined college football and what it is for me.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:29 am to Odysseus32
How many times under Less did we lose to Bama and then our season was over? Under the current format, we can still have a chance at a national championship with one or even two loses. The new format has been needed for a long time and I feel that the season is even more exciting now. I just hate there isnt an SEC east and west champion any more.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:30 am to Odysseus32
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LSU could realistically lose 2 more games and have a shot to win the title.
No they can't. No team is making the CFP after losing every big game they played. Also USC sucks and we never should have lost that game.
I do agree with your overall point that the expanded playoffs, transfer portal, and NIL has made the game better. Parity and more teams in the hunt is a good thing.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:30 am to Odysseus32
I don't think a 3 loss LSU team gets into the playoff
Maybe a 2 loss
Maybe a 2 loss
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:32 am to Powerman
Yall guys are funny. The playoffs make the regular season much much more exciting. Instead of 8 teams vying for 3 spots we got 20 teams vying for 12. Enjoy it. Any other opinion is not valid.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:33 am to BabyTac
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The playoff system has ruined college football and what it is for me.
I can't understand how. If you want to be more niche and a little bit obsessive, there's a whole host of G5 teams fighting for Conf Championships. I get that the coverage has shifted significantly and it's more mainstream and the playoff talking points can get old, but the football is still there.
I didn't walk into this 5 years ago. I remember 2002. I was young, 10 years old, but that's when I became a fan. I remember the split championship, 4th and 5 National Championship on the line, Bush Push, Stanford Upset, Dwayne Bowe, 3OT twice, Ole Miss 4th Down, etc.
I loved all of that shite. I was raised on it. But this is way better. Not to mention the players are just far and away better.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:36 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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USC sucks and we never should have lost that game.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The regular season is pretty meh now.
Disagree. That Bama Vandy game was incredible. Every regular season game still counts. It’s just that one bad loss doesn’t eliminate you.
We’re nowhere near a playoff team this year,but if we were, imagine that USCw game and how it would’ve basically tanked our season (there’s no way we’d finish with only one loss)… if we were a playoff team this year that game doesn’t necessarily change that.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to Odysseus32
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NIL has given G5 teams better players and has given traditional bottom feeder P5 schools a chance at parity in conference. Vanderbilt win likely doesn't happen without NIL.
NIL has stripped G5 teams of their good players… hence why we have seen more 70 pt games this year than ever.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to BabyTac
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The playoff system has ruined college football
This. Wait until November and they are arguing over who the 12th best team in the country is. The truth of the matter is that the four team playoff rarely produced upsets. Also, the expanded playoffs will water down the regular season. The best part of college football is September and October, not December.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:41 am to Odysseus32
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I can't understand how.
Conference championships mean nothing.
Teams that play 12-13 games to prove they aren’t the best team in their conference get a chance to say they’re the best team in the country?
Regular season is watered down.
Bowl system throughout the holidays is officially dead.
College kids are supposed to travel around the country watching playoff games. No. Corporate fan environment.
Let’s face it, as some are still stuck in the past, but the big Vandy win last weekend means absolutely nothing in todays platform.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:44 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The regular season is pretty meh now.
You’ll get less games like 2011 Alabama/ LSU where it felt like winner was going to a championship (even then that was a joke)
But what you’ll get is a ton of games in November that all of a sudden really matter.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:45 am to BabyTac
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Conference championships mean nothing.
Teams that play 12-13 games to prove they aren’t the best team in their conference get a chance to say they’re the best team in the country?
LSU baseball didn't win the regular season or conference tournament championships in 2023, did that make their National championship worth less?
LSU women's basketball also didn't win either in 2023. Did that make their NC worth less?
Bama didn't even make the SEC Championship in 2011, do you think they feel like thier NC from that year is worth less than the others?
This is a dumb argument. While I agree that I think conference championship games themselves are probably on their way out, I don't think teams are going to stop trying to win their conference.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:47 am to Odysseus32
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Vanderbilt win likely doesn't happen without NIL.
We’ve always had upsets like that. To say, one way or the other, someone would have to do a statistical analysis.
But the playoffs have definitely made the back half of the season more interesting for more teams. And NIL has taken a lot of the spirit out of college football and made it more mercenary.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The regular season is pretty meh now.
No it isn't.
It didn't seem very "meh" for Vanderbilt or Arkansas fans, or any of the fans of the other schools who pulled off upsets. The expanded playoff gives more teams room for error....which keeps more teams/fanbases, fully invested for longer in the season...yet, not enough to make any game insignificant. In years past if you had 2 losses in Sept that pretty much assured you had no chance to play for a championship, thus diminishing the games in Oct and Nov.
Some fans are rejecting it now because of "tradition" and the novelty of the playoff. (People bitched about a 4 team CFP too). But they haven't ever seen meaningful playoff games in December. They have never seen several meaningful games in a "playoff push" at the end of a season. 2-3 games at the end of the season? Sure. But not several like is commonplace in the NFL (i.e. the most popular US sport by a mile) Once that happens, it will only take a few years for people to realize just how absurd college football's "postseason" was for decades. There was no other college sport where the champion was subjectively chosen by a group of sportswriter and almost all of the postseason was reaching a pre-ordained that was, in practice, little more than a glorified exhibition game. The fact that star players were choosing to sit out Oranges Bowls, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowls, etc shows you they weren't very meaningful. No star basketball players are "opting out" of the NCAA Tournament.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:02 am to Paul Allen
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As you mentioned, the 55 and up crowd view the current landscape of the sport way different than someone let’s say in their late 20’s.
Is that really true? I'm 62 and I think college football is still as exciting as ever. I find the people lamenting the "end of college athletics as we know it" or "the end of tradition" are mostly folks I perceive to be the GenX/Millennial crowd. But that may be a flawed perspective on my part.
It is much less of a "hometown" than it once was but that isn't because of NIL or the Portal, it is because of TV contracts and mega dollars coming into college athletics. Particularly football and basketball.
Whatever the issues are, though, I am sure it is the fault of us boomers
I think a lot of people conflate that loss of the hometown feeling with the product on the field being worse.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:04 am to BabyTac
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Conference championships mean nothing.
They mean you get a bye in the first round of the playoffs in football. So your very first statement is wrong, why should I read any further?
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