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Crawfish farmers are making a killing off disaster relief program.

Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39079 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:56 pm
Everyone is padding their production records because there is basically no regulation.

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Inventory and Production Records Flexibilities

ELAP policy requires producers to provide a beginning and ending inventory record. But, due to the unique crawfish production systems, this is an almost impossible ask of producers. To meet the needs of crawfish producers, FSA is implementing ELAP inventory and production records flexibilities that offer options for producers who have records and for those who don’t; allowing all commercial crawfish producers an opportunity to apply for ELAP assistance.

Under current ELAP policy, for program payments to be calculated for farm-raised fish losses, commercial crawfish producers must provide FSA with historical production data for 2021 to 2023. For producers who cannot provide the required production records, FSA will assign production values based on county expected yields from an Olympic average of the previous five years in that parish. Crawfish production is maintained in pounds/surface acre by each producer. LSU maintains the information with parish and state averages. These averages were used in 2021 to establish a county expected yield for each parish.

Calculating Payments

Depending on the availability of producer records, ELAP payments will be calculated by taking the established beginning inventory three-year average production history (or the county expected yield) per surface acre of water, certified on the FSA-578 Report of Acreage form, minus the current year's production records.


https://www.fsa.usda.gov/state-offices/Louisiana/news-releases/2024/usda-announces-disaster-program-flexibilities-to-help-louisiana-crawfish-producers-impacted-by-extreme-heat-in-2023



Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61227 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:57 pm to
How many crawfish baws do you think or doing this or even know what it is?
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
14771 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:59 pm to
They were considering lowering crawfish prices this upcoming season, but this thread is now on tomorrow’s agenda when the Crawfish Cartel meets.

Expect record high prices this year.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20075 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:03 pm to
If we are being honest, crawfish farmers are no different than any other commodity farmers, it’s just on a level that we can understand and are much closer to full process from harvest to table. At least most of these guys are family owned farms.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39079 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:04 pm to
quote:


How many crawfish baws do you think or doing this or even know what it is?




Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39079 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

If we are being honest, crawfish farmers are no different than any other commodity farmers, it’s just on a level that we can understand and are much closer to full process from harvest to table. At least most of these guys are family owned farms.


They are going get $1.44 per pound or close to it for claimed lost production.

I guess the cartel can start there with their cut.

Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20075 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

hey are going get $1.44 per pound or close to it for claimed lost production. I guess the cartel can start there with their cut.



Don’t get it twisted. I think it’s bullshite but this is done on enormous levels in this country with corn and wheat and soybeans.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1809 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:18 pm to
Crawfish OPEC gonna cut production to keep prices up



Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:19 pm to
So many government programs have so little oversight, it's pathetic.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19365 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:21 pm to
I don’t blame them at all.

After last season, they gotta recoup the best they can
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25644 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:23 pm to
Crawfish prices are gonna be higher than giraffe pussy. Les miles has lost control.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4158 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

So many government programs have so little oversight, it's pathetic.




its all funny money anyway.


I just wish I could pay my taxes in funny money.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39079 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Don’t get it twisted. I think it’s bullshite but this is done on enormous levels in this country with corn and wheat and soybeans.


This is like telling every corn and wheat and soybean farmer...tell is what you yielded per acre last year (don't worry, we won't check your records) and we will pay you twice global market price.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99751 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:40 pm to
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Under current ELAP policy, for program payments to be calculated for farm-raised fish losses,







:)
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8778 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:42 pm to
Prices still going up baw.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24585 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Everyone is padding their production records because there is basically no regulation.

Hmmmm … where have we seen this before?



But this is our money now
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 8:48 pm
Posted by White Bear
SPECULATION
Member since Jul 2014
17120 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:05 pm to
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deltaland
what kinda truck you getting this winter, baw?
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4871 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:09 pm to
Wasn’t welder69 bragging about doing this?

LINK
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4379 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:22 pm to
Long read incoming….
I’ll inform you how the program is done, because I don’t think you understand. There’s 2 options to get ELAP assistance.
1. You use the parish average lbs for the past 3 years (2021,2022,2023). You take the parish average minus your 2024 production Xs $1.44 Xs your certificates acres.
2. You use your own average lbs for the past 3 years (2021,2022,2023) you take your average from those years minus your 2024 production Xs $1.44 Xs your certificates acres.
You have to turn in your records to the FSA office with a verification letter from all your buyers that verifies production.
All applicants go to the the state board, and they review all applications. There’s been people denied. Everyone is also subject to an audit. So no one is pulling numbers out of fairyland. There’s a system in place it’s not a free for all. So educate yourself, do your homework before you spew your BS.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5488 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:24 pm to
Eating crawfish once or twice a year is fine by me, and most people, if it comes to that.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:24 pm
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