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Carly Gregg the 14 year old sentenced to life for killing her mom. Were SSRIs to blame?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:37 pm
A teenage girl killed her mom and invited friend to see the corpse. She will spend rest of her life behind bars
She's 15 now and after watching the security video on X of her murdering her mom and trying to lure her stepdad home I searched around for more info.
I see drugs mentioned often as a motive but all of the articles ever only mentioned her smoking marijuana vapes
But then I saw someone who watched the trial closely post this
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If true, it's yet more evidence to keep your kids off of SSRIs and maybe out of public schools. Almost every school shooter has been on SSRIs at some point.
She's 15 now and after watching the security video on X of her murdering her mom and trying to lure her stepdad home I searched around for more info.
I see drugs mentioned often as a motive but all of the articles ever only mentioned her smoking marijuana vapes
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Prosecutors told the court that the shooting was carried out because Smylie had discovered her daughter’s “secret life” with drugs. They painted Carly as a dangerous killer who had “burner phones,” hidden vape pens containing marijuana, and a history of cheating at school and self-harm.
But then I saw someone who watched the trial closely post this
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I watched this entire trial. This baby was only 14. She was on so many drugs from Drs who deemed her "depressed", "anxious", "paranoid", non lucid, non demonstrative. Her ability to control thoughts, emotions, and right from wrong was stolen from her by unnecessary drugs.
This is what happened to how many kids after covid?
Now add in school indoctrination, gender misinformation, over sexualized reading materials.
They came for your kids, and apparently got a few of them.
Now what will happen to her? You won't ever hear another word about her. Cause they'll use her, sell her, experiment on her...
But you won't ever know.
She's 14 years old.
LINK
If true, it's yet more evidence to keep your kids off of SSRIs and maybe out of public schools. Almost every school shooter has been on SSRIs at some point.
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:40 pm to stout
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Prosecutors told the court that the shooting was carried out because Smylie had discovered her daughter’s “secret life” with drugs. They painted Carly as a dangerous killer who had “burner phones,” hidden vape pens containing marijuana, and a history of cheating at school and self-harm.
Killing someone is a major escalation, but it's pretty clear she was void of morals. SSRIs don't affect morality.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:43 pm to stout
She looks off. Like way off. But if you watch the video on Twitter, she knew what she was doing. Cold as hell. Snuck up on her mom and then went back in the kitchen petting the dogs. Was the medication partly or all to blame, who knows. But you can’t make me believe she didn’t understand/know what she was doing
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:44 pm to YouKnowImRight
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SSRIs don't affect morality.
They can make one not care about morality though. Knowing what's right and wrong is different than acting on it. Furthermore having drugs screw with your synapses and cloud your judgement can override one's programming to do right.
I'm not saying this cocktail of prescribed drugs caused her actions, but disregarding it based off of knowing morality is not a fair assessment. If that's the case then people wouldn't have banged so many fat chicks on drunken nights in college
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:58 pm to stout
Can you start off with telling us what SSRI’s are?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:00 pm to stout
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Carly Gregg the 14 year old sentenced to life for killing her mom. Were SSRIs to blame?
No. She was.
The meds probably didn’t help, but she’s clearly a little sociopath devoid of any potential for morality.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:02 pm to stout
Young white women are three decades into a multi-generational mental health crisis.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:02 pm to Midget Death Squad
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They can make one not care about morality though.
That is incorrect.
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Furthermore having drugs screw with your synapses and cloud your judgement can override one's programming to do right.
SSRIs are not that powerful baw.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:04 pm to VoxDawg
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Young white women are three decades into a multi-generational mental health crisis
It's more than white women, though
I think asking if SSRIs are contributing is a fair conversation to have
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:11 pm to stout
Why is Sao re-posting your threads on the O-T?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:28 pm to Bunk Moreland
Because he is sexually attracted to me and is mad I rebuke his advances.
Seriously it's because I ignore him and hes oddly obsessed with me to the point of stalking me IRL. He's trying to get me to respond to him
I would say it's pathetic to see a grown man act that way but hes also a drunk with a serious problem so he probably isn't thinking clearly because he's on a binge.
Seriously it's because I ignore him and hes oddly obsessed with me to the point of stalking me IRL. He's trying to get me to respond to him
I would say it's pathetic to see a grown man act that way but hes also a drunk with a serious problem so he probably isn't thinking clearly because he's on a binge.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:04 pm to WeeWee
A lot of people won’t feel emotions to how people do when not on SSRI’s. Lexapro and others do this.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:06 pm to 2014Tigers
She was only on 5mg a day of Lexapro and weaning off celexa
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:11 pm to Allthatfades
Yes. SSRI’s are responsible for the majority of mental issues in 2024
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:37 pm to stout
I live in the Madison area, her trial was big news daily.
Let me clean things up here :
1) she was a typical self-centered product of a broken home.
2) the prison psychologist, who has interviewed dozens of intakes, saw no evidence of drug paranoia, psychosis, or delusions
3) her regular shrink, that had seen her on over a dozen scheduled meetings- ditto
4) her family had security cameras in every room of the house, submitted as evidence. On the day of the mother, her Mother went to her room, found a THC vape pen- the Killer then took a 357 and shot Mom 3 times point blank (on camera)
Her surviving “family” hired possibly the worst Defense lawyer available- a TV ad DUI lawyer, who had zero experience in criminal defense.
The Judge had to regularly threaten her Defense team due to irregularities and being over their heads.
Her Defense team advised her to reject the Prosecution recommendation of 40 years with probation, rolled the dice and lost.
Now that she lost bigly in the Jury trial, here comes all the pablum about drugs, SSRI’s etc.
Let me clean things up here :
1) she was a typical self-centered product of a broken home.
2) the prison psychologist, who has interviewed dozens of intakes, saw no evidence of drug paranoia, psychosis, or delusions
3) her regular shrink, that had seen her on over a dozen scheduled meetings- ditto
4) her family had security cameras in every room of the house, submitted as evidence. On the day of the mother, her Mother went to her room, found a THC vape pen- the Killer then took a 357 and shot Mom 3 times point blank (on camera)
Her surviving “family” hired possibly the worst Defense lawyer available- a TV ad DUI lawyer, who had zero experience in criminal defense.
The Judge had to regularly threaten her Defense team due to irregularities and being over their heads.
Her Defense team advised her to reject the Prosecution recommendation of 40 years with probation, rolled the dice and lost.
Now that she lost bigly in the Jury trial, here comes all the pablum about drugs, SSRI’s etc.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:43 pm to Central MS
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Her Defense team advised her to reject the Prosecution recommendation of 40 years with probation, rolled the dice and lost.
Were they hoping to get sympathy from the jury due to her age?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:46 pm to Central MS
quote:Good. That’s exactly what she deserves
Her surviving “family” hired possibly the worst Defense lawyer available- a TV ad DUI lawyer, who had zero experience in criminal defense.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:54 pm to stout
Haha false correlation dude. Thats like saying every person who has died of complications from diabetes has been on metformin so metformin must have caused the issue. I have never had a patient on ssris kill someone and I’ve been practicing a long arse time.
That being said, they are over prescribed. Lifestyle modifications and therapy should always be first line with medication as a last resort. Ssris all too often cause affective blunting/emotional dulling.. you won’t feel anxious.. you won’t feel anything.. that’s actually a VERY common side effect along with sexual side effects. Ssris can anorgasmia.. which can actually be a treatment for all you premature ejaculators
That being said, they are over prescribed. Lifestyle modifications and therapy should always be first line with medication as a last resort. Ssris all too often cause affective blunting/emotional dulling.. you won’t feel anxious.. you won’t feel anything.. that’s actually a VERY common side effect along with sexual side effects. Ssris can anorgasmia.. which can actually be a treatment for all you premature ejaculators
Posted on 9/23/24 at 5:08 pm to stout
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Leber said she met with Gregg for the last time on March 12, a week before the shootings. At this appointment, a medication switch occurred after Gregg complained of feeling “like a zombie.” Leber said she told Gregg to taper off the Zoloft she was taking, while starting on a new medication, Lexapro. According to Leber, Gregg never reported hearing voices or having lapses in her memory.
Zoloft is a SSRI.
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Antidepressants increased the risk of suicidal thoughts and behavior in pediatric and young adult patients in short-term studies. Closely monitor all antidepressant-treated patients for clinical worsening, and for emergence of suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
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Less common or rare AEs
aggressive actions
fast talking and excited feelings or actions that are out of control
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Fever, hyperkinesia, urinary incontinence, aggressive reaction, sinusitis, epistaxis, and purpura were reported in clinical trials in pediatric patients at an incidence of at least 2% and at a rate of at least twice that of placebo. In clinical trials in children and adolescents aged 6 to 17 years with major depressive disorder, the incidence of discontinuation due to side effects was reported at 9%; the most common reactions leading to discontinuation were agitation, suicidal ideation, hyperkinesia, suicide attempt, and aggravated depression.
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Common (1% to 10%): Affect/emotional lability, aggravated depression, aggressive reaction, aggression, agitation, anxiety, bruxism/teeth grinding, decreased libido, depersonalization, depression, nervousness, nightmare, mania, paroniria, suicidal ideation, suicide attempt
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Rare (less than 0.1%): Conversion disorder, drug dependence, paranoia, psychotic disorder, sleep walking, suicide behavior
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Adult and pediatric patients receiving antidepressants for MDD, as well as for psychiatric and nonpsychiatric indications, have reported symptoms that may be precursors to emerging suicidality, including anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia, hypomania, and mania. Causality has not been established.
Lexapro is a SNRI.
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Oral route (tablet; solution) Suicidal Thoughts and Behaviors. Antidepressants increased the risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors in pediatric and young adult patients in short-term studies. Closely monitor all antidepressant-treated patients for clinical worsening, and for emergence of suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
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Uncommon (0.1% to 1%): Abnormal thinking, aggravated depression, aggression/aggressive reaction, aggravated restlessness, alcohol problem, apathy, bruxism, confusion, confusional state, depersonalization, depression, emotional lability, excitability, feeling unreal, forgetfulness, visual/auditory hallucination, hypomania, irritability, jitteriness, obsessive-compulsive disorder, panic attack/reaction, paranoia/paroniria, sleep disorder, suicide attempt, tics
Frequency not reported: Mania, suicidal ideation/behavior
Postmarketing reports: Acute psychosis, anger, completed suicide, delirium, delusion, disorientation, non-accidental overdose, mood swings,
Posted on 9/23/24 at 5:15 pm to Espritdescorps
Society won't accept that 1 to 2 % of the population cannot feel empathy and actually have a sexual fetish for causing pain in others. It's not because of trauma, broken homes or drugs. They are born that way and it's probably an evolutionary trait that was beneficial along the way.
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