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Cobb Tuning pays $2.9M fine to EPA
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:30 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:30 am
quote:
The maker of a popular line of vehicle tuning gadgets and software has agreed to pay the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency $2.9 million after the regulator accused the company of selling performance-boosting equipment that enabled customers to bypass air pollution laws.
Cobb Tuning $2.9M Fine
Anyone else have a Cobb tuner?
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:41 am to bad93ex
Deleted diesels are so trashy.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:44 am to No Colors
quote:
Deleted diesels are so trashy.
X1000
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:50 am to N2cars
Yes who doesnt wamt a diesel with a 20k dollar DEF time bomb on it and shitty fuel efficiency.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:52 am to No Colors
quote:
Deleted diesels are so trashy.
Which one of these is the deleted diesel?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:57 am to bad93ex
quote:Thats what Nebraska farmers call bj's.
Cobb Tuning
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:59 am to Strannix
You're right.
Keep rollin' coal, as loud as possible.
Deleters brought this on themselves.
Keep rollin' coal, as loud as possible.
Deleters brought this on themselves.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:00 am to bad93ex
The VW probably
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:14 am to No Colors
Cobb doesn't tune diesels. 
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:19 am to bad93ex
I have an AccessPort for my WRX. The main appeal of it, to me, is that the bundled tunes fix a second-gear RPM hang characteristic of Subaru's stock tune.
These bundled tunes are 100% 50-state legal. There's a sticker to that effect supplied with the AccessPort. In general, I think Cobb has taken care to do things right, and lumping them in with those stupid "diesel delete" companies is totally unfair.
What Cobb did that's run afoul of the EPA was to allow tuners who use the AccessPort as a programming device a little too much control, particularly over when the Check Engine light illuminates. Basically, they had the option of saying "this particular trouble code isn't relevant to this particular car."
The trouble code was still there in memory, though. Unless a state's inspection process consisted of simply making sure the CEL wasn't lit up, then nothing Cobb did interfered with it at all.
These bundled tunes are 100% 50-state legal. There's a sticker to that effect supplied with the AccessPort. In general, I think Cobb has taken care to do things right, and lumping them in with those stupid "diesel delete" companies is totally unfair.
What Cobb did that's run afoul of the EPA was to allow tuners who use the AccessPort as a programming device a little too much control, particularly over when the Check Engine light illuminates. Basically, they had the option of saying "this particular trouble code isn't relevant to this particular car."
The trouble code was still there in memory, though. Unless a state's inspection process consisted of simply making sure the CEL wasn't lit up, then nothing Cobb did interfered with it at all.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 7:20 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:25 am to Porpus
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RPM hang
My son’s GR86 has this as well. I’ve thought about trying to address it…but the solutions don’t seem like something he’ll be able to maintain during college.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:31 am to bad93ex
quote:
Which one of these is the deleted diesel?
The one driven by the guy with a flat bill hat
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:46 am to Porpus
That's an effed up deal then.
It's gotten to the point where you can't even wrench on your own car.
And dealership "technicians" just throw parts at it until they get a fix.
It's gotten to the point where you can't even wrench on your own car.
And dealership "technicians" just throw parts at it until they get a fix.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:52 am to N2cars
quote:No, I'm pretty sure it's the crippling federal government that stifles production and commerce in the name of saving the environment while their very own equipment is free of that bullshite. Must not be too important if they don't need the shite?
Deleters brought this on themselves.
Meanwhile, you can buy the same machines and vehicles in other countries without any of that bullshite while they dump pollutants into their rivers and we come in and pay to clean it up.
You're the type of twink power bottom that thinks drinking out of paper straws is going to save the planet, and if those stupid farmers who make millionaires out of politicians that picked up BlueDef stocks before anyone else would shut up then we can stop this thing.
But you've got a corvette, so it's not surprising.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:02 am to mudshuvl05
I've owned more diesels than you, two right now. 6.7 Ford, and 6.7 Cummins in the Frieghtliner. Deleting these newer engines makes no sense, now.
You can live out your gay fantasies somewhere else, you've sure got the lingo down.
You can live out your gay fantasies somewhere else, you've sure got the lingo down.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:06 am to mudshuvl05
quote:easy man. I’m sure he means the idiots pouring out as much soot as they can because they think somehow it’s “cool”
No, I'm pretty sure it's the crippling federal government that stifles production and commerce in the name of saving the environment while their very own equipment is free of that bullshite. Must not be too important if they don't need the shite? Meanwhile, you can buy the same machines and vehicles in other countries without any of that bullshite while they dump pollutants into their rivers and we come in and pay to clean it up. You're the type of twink power bottom that thinks drinking out of paper straws is going to save the planet, and if those stupid farmers who make millionaires out of politicians that picked up BlueDef stocks before anyone else would shut up then we can stop this thing.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:07 am to bad93ex
Just another thing the chevron ruling should fix.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:09 am to Porpus
quote:
What Cobb did that's run afoul of the EPA was to allow tuners who use the AccessPort as a programming device a little too much control, particularly over when the Check Engine light illuminates.
The EPA must be the only people in the world who don't know that a lot of people ignore their "check engine" light.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:09 am to achenator
Exactly.
It's those a-holes who screwed it for everyone.
EPA sucks, everybody knows that.
It's those a-holes who screwed it for everyone.
EPA sucks, everybody knows that.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:09 am to N2cars
quote:
Keep rollin' coal, as loud as possible.
You can delete without rolling coal
Many do it to get rid of DEF and improvement towing performance
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