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re: Cobb Tuning pays $2.9M fine to EPA

Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:11 am to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39560 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:11 am to
I'm aware.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:13 am to
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Keep rollin' coal, as loud as possible.



You can delete without rolling coal

Many do it to get rid of DEF and improvement towing performance


If it's rolling coal, then it's poorly tuned. A good tune will gain power and efficiency without wasting extra fuel to burn coal.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17607 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:15 am to
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Just another thing the chevron ruling should fix.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55952 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:17 am to


All of them.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39560 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:18 am to
I'm sure most deletes are done to unlock power and/or improve MPG. And the DEF systems are a PITA and smell like just what they are, piss.


The newer engines aren't nearly as easily to delete as the previous gens, and you'd better know than any dealership won't touch them after a delete.

And there are a lot of a-holes who blow soot either on purpose or b/c they don't know dick.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:24 am to
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The newer engines aren't nearly as easily to delete as the previous gens, and you'd better know than any dealership won't touch them after a delete.


I'd imagine the kind of diesel mechanic that can tune and delete a newer engine probably isn't worried about and doesn't want a dealership touching anywhere near the engine at that point.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138890 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:36 am to
Wonder how much they’ve made by selling these. Could be a fair trade off.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35893 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:37 am to
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What Cobb did that's run afoul of the EPA was to allow tuners who use the AccessPort as a programming device a little too much control, particularly over when the Check Engine light illuminates


I thought this was America.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:42 am to
Son, I've got more money tied up in diesel equipment and trucks than your little $1200/month truck note arse could ever imagine. A 6.7 powerstroke (it's not a "6.7 Ford", sugar tits) and a 6.7 Cummins?

That's cute.

The point stands: it is not the fault of free citizens who desire the same performance and cost of operations as your beloved government and other developed nations.

What a shite, boomer take. Ya'll can't age out of the consumer markets fast enough.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3211 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:44 am to
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Deleting these newer engines makes no sense, now.


Until you get stranded multiple times in the middle of f’n nowhere. Until you get f’n derated and don’t have enough power to go even 50 mph on a busy interstate. I had 2 years of failures on this ingenious Cummins/Freightliner DEF system. Oh and a lovely 6 month wait on parts. Deleting this worthless junk off my RV was one of the best moves ever.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
622 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:48 am to
a-hole deleters maybe.

I deleted one several years ago because it was going to save me a few grand in labor and make the truck more efficient. It never rolled coal once. You never would have known anything was done to unless you were paying the fuel bill or driving it.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33946 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:49 am to
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Just another thing the chevron ruling should fix.

Yeah when is this ruling going to start showing results?
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:56 am to
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easy man. I’m sure he means the idiots pouring out as much soot as they can because they think somehow it’s “cool”
Irrelevant, because just like the federal government does, they apply that standard across the board for all diesel engines from the 6.7 powerstokes to AGCO tractor engines, to caterpillar construction equipment.

We have to deal with that bullshite, and when you extrapolate the problems we have with these engines out across the entirety of every jobsite and cotton field in this country, it does nothing but cripple enterprise even more.

If they want to imprison some flatbill wearing sleeved out Edgar from working on his pavement princess with the threat of imprisonment and fines, then I'm not okay with that either, but when that government cripples operations to the tune of millions of dollars of lost down time every day while other developed countries continue on unabated and they exempt their own equipment from those oppressive laws, it makes your statement and his ridiculous assumption so far off-base that it barely deserves a reply.

I don't care what their intentions were, I know what the results are: a disaster for American businesses who rely on diesel engines every day to keep this country in business.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 9:16 am to
My sister (no pics), who worked for DEQ, can confirm that EPA sucks.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39560 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 9:36 am to
"Powerstroke" is the marketing name for Scorpion diesel platform that Ford developed in-house.

The 6.7 is a Ford engine.

I don't believe you own any "heavy equipment " and you wouldn't know a pin from a bushing if you fell on it.




Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17425 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 9:59 am to
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Deleted diesels are so trashy.


Uhh no. Getting the DPF filter off these engines, in free states you can, greatly extends the life of your engine and turbo. It keeps your EGTs down, INCREASES fuel mileage, saves your turbo seals, and ends the reconditioning process that winds up putting raw diesel fuel in your motor oil in some engines. It’s not just a “look at me” mod.

And that’s just the DPF. Haven’t gotten to the busting EGR coolers and the dumbass DEF system failures yet.

This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17425 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:03 am to
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I've owned more diesels than you,


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Deleting these newer engines makes no sense, now.


You are either delusional or lying. No third option.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:04 am
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39560 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:16 am to
All of mine are under factory warranty.
They've had O issues.

Do you know anyone that's deleted the most recent Ford 6 7?
My understanding is that it's a lot more difficult than the older ones.

I can't see any reason to do it.
I've owned 3 Ford 6.7's and have had great economy and power with all of them, and fortunately, no DEF issues.

If you can't handle a normal difference of opinion, no need to reply.




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Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17607 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:25 am to
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I've owned 3 Ford 6.7's and have had great economy and power with all of them, and fortunately, no DEF issues.
I’d guess you traded/trade around warrant expiration.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4600 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:30 am to
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Porpus
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my WRX

I knew you were gay.
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