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Defensive HAVOC rate Week 3

Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79515 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:13 am
Week 1- 44.8%
Week 2- 26.6%

Reminder, Baker’s goal was 20-25% for the season

Week 3- 59%

Monster week from a big play stand point. However, a very clear trend is developing- LSU has a boom or bust defense. Is it a lack of focus or is the hyper aggressive nature a part of, let’s say, a very poor run fit by Whit Weeks on that long TD run? Probably a combination of both.

Either way, we’re making a shitload more plays on defense. I suspect Baker views this as his best option instead of lining up man on man and just being better.

Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1129 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:14 am to
Imma blame Penn again bc it feels like a safe bet unfortunately.
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
2937 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:14 am to
We had an interception and a fumble recovery. I didn't even know we were allowed to do that anymore.
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1918 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

let’s say, a very poor run fit by Whit Weeks on that long TD run? Probably a combination of both.


I’m actually gonna blame the DE for crashing inside. Absolutely no reason for that. Weeks already had that gap.

Weeks didn’t have his best game, that’s for sure, but that was all on the DE.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6276 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:37 am to
Bad angles and poor tackling. Needs to get fixed.
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
2958 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:39 am to
Weeks had some issues
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
4393 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:40 am to
I think we have to play this way. To overcome personnel talent gaps, we have to gamble a good bit and bring pressure. By doing this, we may stop them 8/10 times, but those 2 times we miss are going to hurt.

Either way, this defense is better than last years, despite the personnel being largely the same.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
11101 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:40 am to
Don’t feel good about playing Dart and Milroe this year
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79515 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:41 am to
Agree juicey
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
3415 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:48 am to
Anyone have pff player grades on defensive guys? Whit Weeks, Greg Penn had very rough games. Curious how everyone graded out.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7338 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:49 am to
Boom or bust is the correct approach for this defense. We are very solid at CB, but outside of that, without Baker’s playcalling & blitz looks it’s just bust.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4799 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Week 3- 59%


I'm sure most of that came in the 2nd half after Sellers left the game.

Doesnt matter if we're still giving up multiple explosive plays that keeps teams in the game.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
4940 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:57 am to
quote:

a very poor run fit by Whit Weeks on that long TD run?


If you notice on that play, Reliford crashes into the C gap on the snap. That makes me think that Weeks missed a call. No way the design of that play intended for the defensive end to come across the tackles face and leave the edge unattended. By the looks of it, weeks was supposed to either blitz or fill off the edge

The most pathetic play of the game was when Gilbert decided that it wasn't worth his time to continue chasing sellers on his long run. Gilbert was actually gaining ground and potentially could have tried to strip the ball from behind near the goal line if he hadn't quit twice on the same play. He should be called out in film and have some sort of extra running punishment at practice for being lazy and quitting. Also, someone teach him how to wrap up
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19241 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:58 am to
quote:

a very poor run fit by Whit Weeks on that long TD run?


This will get eviscerated in film.

Also our DB was clearly held by their WR. I was furious watching live. You could see his chest plate get yanked.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
5156 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:58 am to
This defense still has some problems. But, there is clear improvement over last year. We don’t see receivers constantly running free in the secondary. Several catches by USC and USEe receivers were contested, but the receiver just made a fantastic play. You can’t really complain about athlete vs athlete, one guy making a good play over another guy.

The defensive front 7 is consistently getting pressure on the QB. They’ve seemingly caused more havoc the past 3 games than all of last season combined. But, they’ve also had a couple breakdowns. On one of the long TD runs, Weeks #40 crashed down and in instead of setting the edge, which opened up a huge hole. The safety was already running across the field, he tried to turn around, but he had already taken himself out of the play, as well. That said, either the DE or Weeks missed an assignment. I’m not sure whose responsibility it was to set the edge on that play, but it was clearly not done. This is fixable though. Yes, it resulted in a huge play. But these are much smaller problems than we’ve had the past two years. It’s certainly encouraging.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3177 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:01 am to
The long td run was on Weeks. The LB has to fill the open gap, not the one the DE in already taking. The DE can't see LB it's the LB job to adjust as the play develops. One of Weeks' strengths is his aggressiveness but it bit us on that one.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62116 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:03 am to
quote:

However, a very clear trend is developing- LSU has a boom or bust defense.


No doubt. And we’re getting better at the booms. I think we had 5 sacks, 9 TFLs, 4 forced fumbles, and 2 picks (if you count the one on the 2-point conversion) and a number of pressures that forced bad throws.

And I think that’s really our only chance of getting the multiple stops per game that we’ll need. With our limitations on the interior DL, the OL is getting to the 2nd level to get to our LBs. So I don’t think they have the luxury of just sitting there and waiting to read. They’ve got to come downhill a million miles an hour at the snap and hit our gaps to fill the run. And when we fill the wrong gap, we’re exposed and it opens us up to explosive runs. That’s just gonna happen. We are going to give up big plays.

BUT, we’ve got 4 weeks before Ole Miss, including 2 weeks with a bye to work on getting better at filling the right gap. And that big run by Sanders late was mainly due to Reliford losing contain. He’s a true freshman and will lead from that.

So I think we can get more disciplined, continue to make those boom plays, and start to at least limit some of the busts. We can’t get rid of them completely, but we limit them to 3 a game instead of 6. We’re gonna give up some yards and some points, but if we can continue to get stops and give our offense a few extra possessions a game, we could be a lot better. The offense just has to be more efficient when given those possessions, especially in the red zone. We’ve got to come away with TDs once we get down inside the 10. Defense got 2 turnovers deep inside our own territory and I think we turned them into 0 points. Or maybe one of those was a FG. So 3 points at the most. That’s got to be 14 or at least 10. Offense is great between the 20s, but need to get better at punching the ball in once we get down there. Maybe Durham helps with that.

But we’re in a great position these next 4 weeks to get better and healthy, and we should see the best version of this team at home against Ole Miss in 4 weeks. We’ll see what that looks like.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2965 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:07 am to
No question they are better vs last season (not a high bar but still) and they appear to be tightening up week to week, the odd busted play here and there notwithstanding.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2965 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:07 am to
{Double post}
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6952 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:08 am to
I think Baker realizes his secondary can not cover for long periods. He’s deciding to bring pressure to mask the inefficiency of the secondary. When we don’t get home quickly or put pressure on the QB it leverages big plays. LB being out of position in the wrong gap, edge containment or the secondary being exposed.
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