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Restorative flexibility & strength training programs?

Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Fbohn1
Member since Jun 2009
331 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:19 pm
Do any of you have experience with any such programs?

I’m 34, pretty good health, workout 4-7 times per week, but I feel I’m always battling some type of injury (golfer’s elbow, tennis elbow, ITB band issues, snapping scapula). It just seems like it’s always something thwarting my workout progress.

I’ve done a few marathons, IM70.3’s, and now I just stick to random programs like P90X3, etc.

But I’m looking for something that can increase my range of motion, improve joint health, while still mixing in some cardio/strength training, without having to repeatedly take weeks off at a time for “recovery”, which never seems to occur 100% regardless.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288332 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:44 pm to
Yoga, good sir
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43922 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 9:05 pm to
I’ve enjoyed the Movement Vault app.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36665 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 9:42 pm to
It’s called lifting heavy arse weights. Combine with yoga and you have a recipe for success. Stop chasing the dopamine hit from running and high intensity stuff like p90x and all those injuries will stop for the most part. Still get some here and there but not nearly as kuch
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13343 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:04 pm to
I was zero cardio guy for decades. Worst I ever did was pop a hamstring doing DL, which meant I sort of limped around for a few weeks, and learned to stretch that thing like it was going out of style. Adding CrossFit turned into a steady drip of nagging minor things.

When you go heavy, you can’t take shortcuts. Butt wink squats are not happening. Foot placement is consistent on every rep, your elbows can’t flare out on the bench, etc. every rep done the same way, 45 lbs or a few hundred.

Watch how inconsistent form gets doing burpees, jumping jacks, etc. aw, it’s light weight no problem, most think.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36665 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:36 pm to
yep, but like me, you will get a ton of downvotes from guys in their 40s chasing dopamine hits and the runners high and wonder why they are always hurt


ETA: im not a zero cardio guy at all. I believe the ability to do real full on sprints is important

i like strong man conditioning, short high intensity conditioning sessions like sprints, prowler pushes or things like the old CF football WODS or greyskull conditioning that dont involve burpees and i think walking with a weighted vest or with KBs is the best form of cardio

i also like biking, walking, playing sports with the family or your kids


i hate...things like constant CF wods like most shitty boxes program, long distancing running, jogging more than a mile, p90x, insanity etc for those that are over 30
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13343 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:23 pm to
I understand the swamp in which I delve which is why I don’t spend much time in this board ??.I actually liked box jumps, and that led to a torn meniscus. Never happened over 20 years of squatting etc. I refused to do BS pull-ups, or feel the need to do EMOM with deadlifts, front squats etc.

Strongman conditioning is fine by me, but this crowd doesn’t get that when the prowler flu is over, you get a dompamine hit! Each new PR (reps or #) there is some more!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38446 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

long distancing running,
I hate when ultra-endurance shite is presented as good for your health.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36665 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:27 pm to
yep running marathons and shite like that is about as healthy as extreme bodybuilding or extreme powerlifting, just begging for an injury
Posted by Lesmeez
Member since Jul 2017
40 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

yep running marathons and shite like that is about as healthy as extreme bodybuilding or extreme powerlifting, just begging for an injury


I wish someone had told me that before my 2 knee and 3 hip surgeries in a 5 year time span. My orthopod has since banned me from running. Smart guy.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16843 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:41 pm to
Anyone have a good free yoga program or even one that is great but not too expensive?

I need to stretch more and I really only have time before bed.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9137 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 5:38 am to
I’ve used Pliability (formerly ROMWOD) and liked it. They have an app, maybe $19/month, most routines are about 25min long.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9137 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 5:59 am to
Also - Knees Over Toes Guy programs might be the best fit for the OP.

His stuff is a great combo of stability, injury proofing, range of motion building, and genuine strength work.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
304 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:56 am to
youtube has a ton of free yoga routines....
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36665 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Also - Knees Over Toes Guy programs might be the best fit for the OP.

His stuff is a great combo of stability, injury proofing, range of motion building, and genuine strength work.


i like KOT stuff but be careful with KOT squat, plenty of people have hurt their knee doing them. make sure you are ready for them
Posted by BigShowGeaux
USA
Member since Jan 2021
246 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:56 am to
Get a foam roller and use it everyday
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2687 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:31 am to
1) Most important, find a good progression-based lifting program and run it 3 or 4 times a week depending on the program. If lifting hard and heavy you don't need more than 4 days a week in the gym, especially as you get older. A don't add extra volume and/or accessory exercises to the workout, focus on nailing the big lifts.

2) On off-days do other activities or just get in a long walk.

3) Add a dynamic warm up before each workout, Agile 8 or something similar.

4) Consider yoga once or week or a dedicated 20 min or so mobility workout.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36665 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to
agile 8 and limber 11 daily with a good lifting program and some crawls....will make a huge difference for just about anyone in 3 months.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3335 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

I feel I’m always battling some type of injury (golfer’s elbow, tennis elbow, ITB band issues, snapping scapula). It just seems like it’s always something thwarting my workout progress.



I'm 30 so a little younger but this really resonated. What does your current workout schedule look like? How about sleep, diet, stress etc.

What helped me was:

1. Dropping the weight by about 50% - this felt almost embarassing but makes a huge difference. I focus on dominating the weight and keeping the muscle under tension all the way through the rep. My muscles burn when I leave the gym but none of the soreness/pain from before.

2. Better lifestyle - 7+ hours of sleep, cleaner eating, salads & veggies, less alcohol etc. Stop forcing yourself to workout when you're stressed, it often just stresses you out more. Just go for a nice gentle walk instead.

3. More rest days - see above, but really just being less rigid with your programs. Unless you're trying to be Dr. Fit PhD it won't kill you to take a day off. Call me soft but what you're describing are common overuse injuries and you will keep having them unless you prioritize recovery.

4. A focus on functional strength - for me this meant gardening & dancing. Plants grow on their own, unlike boring old weights, and you'd be amazed how strong the pulling & squatting will make you. Dancing will push your cardio, coordination, & flexibility while alsp being way more entertaining than doing yet another yoga pose. Both of these are full body workouts that you can do for hours at a time.

Last, I do pretty regular foam rolling, know a lot of yoga poses, and sometimes just do free movement to relieve tension. It's a battle with a desk job, but you have to listen to your body and find what works for you
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288332 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:16 pm to
I hear the Diamond Dallas Page yoga stuff is pretty good for beginners
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