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Space Wars: 80s CRAY-2 Supercomputer vs. Modern-Day iPhone

Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:51 pm

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The CRAY-2 was a behemoth even in its day (1985), at 5,500 pounds and taking up 16 square feet. The iPhone 12, on the other hand, weighs 5.78 ounces and occupies just 1.6 square inches. While the CRAY-2 was busy doing nuclear research and working on oceanographic development for the Department of Defense and the Department of Energy, the iPhone is probably most used for texting and scrolling through social media.

But like the smartest kid you went to school with who spent all their time gaming, it has the potential to do so much more. The CRAY-2 operated at 1.9 billion FLOPS (floating-point operations per second)—while the iPhone 12 operates at 11 trillion FLOPS.


Well, my first big computer was analog.


https://www.pcmag.com/news/space-wars-the-cray-2-supercomputer-vs-the-iphone-12
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 5:05 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:53 pm to
That's Cray Cray.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:54 pm to
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CRAY-2 was a behemoth even in its day (1985), at 5,500 pounds and taking up 16 square feet


That's about the size of a pallet

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The iPhone 12, on the other hand, weighs 5.78 ounces and occupies just 1.6 square inches


Has a footprint about 10x that size actually.

What is wrong with journalists?
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:56 pm to
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While the CRAY-2 was busy doing nuclear research and working on oceanographic development


My uncle used one of these for exactly this purpose and would take us to his office to see it whenever we visited.
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:56 pm to
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The iPhone 12, on the other hand, weighs 5.78 ounces and occupies just 1.6 square inches


Has a footprint about 10x that size actually.



That would be more like an Apple watch size.

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while the iPhone 12 operates at 11 trillion FLOPS.


That 11 trillion FLOPS seems way off since it's not running an NVidia card with massive cudas. The phone processor running at 3 ghz should optimally give 3 billion FLOPS and the iPhone has 4 processors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that should be 12 billion FLOPS. Still the progress is amazing.

This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:57 pm to
Yeah, but an iPhone was never cool like WOPR
Posted by Krane
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:57 pm to
Ordering the 3 Crays and gene sequencers is what gave John Hammond away to Biosyn
Posted by WestSideTiger
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Has a footprint about 10x that size actually

Might be talking about just the main computer parts in the phone.

Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:04 pm to
Saw a really Cray-2 back in the 1990s at Disney World at innovations. It was very impressive.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:05 pm to
My TRS-80 would smoke all those fools.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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25057 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:08 pm to
I was impressed that my Atari 800 could execute 1200 cycles in the vertical interval of a video.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:09 pm to
I worked for Marathon in the early 90's and we had a Cray on site that handled seismic data.
Posted by Bubb
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:42 pm to
link?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:45 pm to
Sat on one of these in Houston in 1984... cool af. I believe it was at Shell.

Posted by dazedconfused
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:49 pm to
The CRAY was a piece of modern furniture. A sofa, really.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:00 pm to
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That's Cray Cray.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:35 pm to
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Though I love that I get to write about the tech industry every day, it’s touched by gender, racial, and socioeconomic inequality and I try to bring these topics to light.


Why are all "journalists" progressive liberals?
Posted by ISEN_AG
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Member since Aug 2013
2289 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:38 pm to
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Has a footprint about 10x that size actually.


Could've been referring to volume. 1.6 in3 could be about right
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18860 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:44 pm to
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while the iPhone 12 operates at 11 trillion FLOPS.



The iPhone 14 can do 2.0 TFLOPS on paper. The author of this article has confused FLOPS with Apple's internal benchmarking for it's "neural" operations per second.
Posted by NolaAg04
Member since Aug 2016
78 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 6:03 pm to
It’s ~4.73 cubic inches
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