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The Hobbit (1977)
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:39 pm
Not feeling great this weekend and was looking for something to watch. $8 to buy on Prime. Amazing how much better the child’s cartoon is opposed to that money grab, garbage trilogy we got (save for a few good scenes).
Maybe I’ll continue my scary cartoon weekend with Watership Down or Rats of Nimh.
Maybe I’ll continue my scary cartoon weekend with Watership Down or Rats of Nimh.
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:02 pm to Aubie Spr96
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(save for a few good scenes).
Which you have to give him credit there. The scenes Jackson had to get right, he absolutely nailed them perfectly. Jackson was only effectively given six months to prepare for the trilogy (unlike Lord of the Rings where he was given three years), and he didn’t have enough time to get everything right, so he focused on the shite he had to do perfectly and halfassed the rest.
This scene was perfection in adaptation:
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:13 pm to Aubie Spr96
I was in the same boat last week. I noticed Watership Down is on HBO Max, but I didn't get around to watching it, unfortunately.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:25 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Watership Down
My mom had no clue about this one and rented it for me and my brother when we were like 6 and 8. Talk about nightmare fuel, seriously messed me up for a few days
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:27 pm to OMLandshark
The Smaug scene and the Golem scene were the two I was referencing. Nailed those.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:43 pm to Aubie Spr96
The look of Gollum always freaked me out in the cartoon movie
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:44 pm to OMLandshark
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Which you have to give him credit there. The scenes Jackson had to get right, he absolutely nailed them
Eh, the scenes in my head played out completely differently. I thought they needed to get the initial meeting of the Dwarves at Bag End right. It was supposed to be light hearted...but also dark and brooding at the end. The song performed in the audiobook was way better than the garbage we got.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:20 pm to Aubie Spr96
You have me wanting to buy North Shore with Nia Peeples
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:08 pm to Aubie Spr96
The cartoon Lord of the Rings followed by Return of the King from the same era were also very good
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:27 pm to luvdoc
I was in second grade in 1980 and the last day of school a teacher rolled this film in and showed it.
I had not heard of The Hobbit at the time and wow that movie made an awesome impression.
I bought the DVD when my kids were little and they loved it as much as I did.
I had not heard of The Hobbit at the time and wow that movie made an awesome impression.
I bought the DVD when my kids were little and they loved it as much as I did.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
Late Gen X kids didn't really grow up with Disney films. Most of what they produced in that era was crap and other studios had figured out the animation game and kids market. Plus they were slow to tap into the cable and home video market.
If you were a kid between 1975 - 1985 then you remember movies like the Hobbit, Watership Down, Secret of Nimh, Riki-Tiki-Tavi plus all of the great Saturday morning and after school cartoons. And then there were the Spielberg and Star Wars movies. Disney was an afterthought.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
They used to play The Hobbit around the holidays every year. My brothers and I always stopped what we were doing to watch it.
I can't remember why the LOTR cartoon only covered two books and the third was basically a musical. They always played them one after another so I thought they were one movie.
I can't remember why the LOTR cartoon only covered two books and the third was basically a musical. They always played them one after another so I thought they were one movie.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:57 pm to Aubie Spr96
Dragonslayer and The Hobbit turned me into the D&D nerd that I am today. Never played, but I read all of the novels from the late 80s (read at a college level as a 10 year old) up until maybe 2005, then tailed off... I still read The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit once each year. I've read each at least 30 times at this point.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:34 pm to AUFANATL
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If you were a kid between 1975 - 1985 then you remember movies like the Hobbit, Watership Down, Secret of Nimh, Riki-Tiki-Tavi plus all of the great Saturday morning and after school cartoons. And then there were the Spielberg and Star Wars movies. Disney was an afterthought.
Pretty much. Disney was slacking on the animation front and were mostly releasing live action films, several that were pretty dark (like The Black Hole and Dragonslayer). The only animated features released during that time frame were:
The Rescuers
The Fox and The Hound
The Black Cauldron
That's 3 animated movies in 10 years
On a side note, they released 44 movies during that stretch.
It was, however, when the following actors got their first big movie breaks:
Fairuza Balk (Return to Oz)
Bruce Boxleitner (Tron) - not his first movie, but just his 3rd and biggest
Robin Williams (Popeye) - second movie ever, first in a lead role
Ricky Schroder (The Last Flight of Noah's Arc) - second movie, first in a title role
This was also their Don Knotts era and the Herbie era (Don Knotts starred in The Apple Dumpling Gang; No Deposit, No Return; Gus; Herbie Goes to Monte Carlo; Hot Lead and Cold Feet; The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again; he then stopped appearing in them after 1979).
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:41 pm to blueboy
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I can't remember why the LOTR cartoon only covered two books and the third was basically a musical. They always played them one after another so I thought they were one movie.
They go into detail on the Wikipedia page for the movie (The Lord of the Rings), but essentially it wasn't hailed by critics and fans were angry because it gave the impression that the story concluded at the end of the film.
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The Lord of the Rings was a financial success.[38] Reports of the budget vary from $4[2] to $8 million, and as high as $12 million,[39] while the film grossed $30.5 million at the North American box office. It thus made a profit, having kept its costs low.[2] In the United Kingdom, the film grossed over $3.2 million.[5] Despite this, the reaction from fans was hostile; Jerry Beck writes that they "intensely dislike[d]" the film's "cheap-looking effects and the missing ending", having been misled by the title to expect the film to cover the whole of the book
Technically, an animated adaptation of The Return of the King was made, but it was styled the same as The Hobbit, so it would contrast pretty sharply against LOTR (the animated version)
The LOTR animated movie DID inspire Peter Jackson though, so... win.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:08 am to Aubie Spr96
the cartoon is good. the music is awesome.
I don’t think the hobbit needed to be 3 movies, and it didn’t need a love story.
I don’t think the hobbit needed to be 3 movies, and it didn’t need a love story.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:48 am to SammyTiger
Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies were an abomination. I will read the book again before watching that garbage. He entirely missed the mood, tone, feel, and look of the Hobbit story and just redid LOR with a lot of filler.
Edited to add: Watership Down was excellent. I actually read the book first as it was on our shelf in home room to borrow. I remember thinking SPOILER ALERT wait, this is just about a bunch of rabbits?!?!?!?!?! about thirty pages in. However, the open of the book is so magnificent that i was already hooked. The prologue in the movie is pure art:
If you like Watership Down movies you should try out Book of Kells. Similar in art and not reliant on technology.
Edited to add: Watership Down was excellent. I actually read the book first as it was on our shelf in home room to borrow. I remember thinking SPOILER ALERT wait, this is just about a bunch of rabbits?!?!?!?!?! about thirty pages in. However, the open of the book is so magnificent that i was already hooked. The prologue in the movie is pure art:
If you like Watership Down movies you should try out Book of Kells. Similar in art and not reliant on technology.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 7:55 am
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:49 am to skrayper
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an animated adaptation of The Return of the King was made,
I remember watching this. Rankin-Bass animation. It was pretty good, but the fricking balladier at the end singing "Frodo of the Nine Fingers and the Ring of Doom" still haunts my thoughts.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:57 am to Aubie Spr96
The Hobbit is a children's tale and should have been adapted as such. Not another epic trilogy like LOTR. It was greed and lunacy that drove the studio to try and make it into anything more than it was meant.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:31 am to rebelrouser
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Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies were an abomination. I will read the book again before watching that garbage. He entirely missed the mood, tone, feel, and look of the Hobbit story and just redid LOR with a lot of filler.
Super grateful to not be this miserable of a person. The Hobbit trilogy has some great moments.
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