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Update on Olympic boxer - definitely not a "biological woman"
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:09 am
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So, lets recap -
1. News article breaks about this - people are outraged.
2. Mostly liberals see this as a political attack on trans community - comes out and shames republicans and everyone who attacked based on the VAGUE response (This has become consistent as hell with the liberal media (trump staged his own assassination, biden is competent, trump didn't get shot by a bullet, etc etc). So, just like all of these other themes, the liberal media goes "here republicans go again, jumping to conclusions, they didn do their research, they are wrong they are idiots etc." Then they allow their audience to believe this is some normal chick that just looks masculine. Their reasoning was BS to begin with "meh russian collusion, they wont state the specifics (it was THEM who were using the lack of specifics to lie to the public).
3. Now, we get clarification, yet again, like in all these other instances that - no the "initial outlash" was correct. This girl doesn't belong here.
I see liberals on my facebook posting Idiocracy memes. They actually think its the conservatives that are stupid. Then i somehow ran across a profile of these LGBTQ and "trans" ones. Turns out - its a heterosexual male and a heterosexual female that are dating. They are identifying all this other stuff, and LGBTQ wearing rainbows etc, but at the end of the day, they are just two straight people that think they are gay? What the crap is going on?
/ end rant.
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For example, Umar Kremlev, President of the IBA, elected not alleviate concerns with his comments, “We didn’t check what was between their legs,” he said, regarding the status of Khelif and fellow boxer Lin Yu-ting, per Crane. “They have men’s levels of testosterone. We don’t know if there were born like men or some changes intervened [sic] at a later stage.”
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“Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting were among 4 boxers who underwent blood test carried out by a laboratory in Istanbul at a championship in May 2022 after questions from boxers, coaches and medics. Two boxers’ results were clear. Khelif and Yu-ting’s results were ‘inconsistent.’
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A second blood test was carried out on Khelif and Yu-ting by another laboratory before another championship in March 2023. Based on the results of the second tests, Khelif and Yu-ting were told they were disqualified from the 2023 competition and had the chance to appeal.
Yu-ting did not appeal. Khelif appealed, an appeal Roberts said was part funded by the IBA. Khelif’s appeal was submitted to CAS (the Court of Arbitration for Sport) but was not taken further (by the athlete) and was dropped.
Chris Roberts, IBA Secretary General, said for privacy reasons he could not give details of the blood test results but people could ‘read between the lines.’ He said the IBA had been told by Algeria and Taiwan not to disclose any information on the two boxers.
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Dr Ioannis Filippatos, president of the European Boxing Confederation and a medical doctor for 30 years, said the second blood test results from the laboratory showed they were ‘male…showed a male caryotype.’
Gabrielle Martelli, IBA World Coaches Chairman, said international coaches had raised concerns. He said it was not about discrimination but about the safety of boxers.
So, lets recap -
1. News article breaks about this - people are outraged.
2. Mostly liberals see this as a political attack on trans community - comes out and shames republicans and everyone who attacked based on the VAGUE response (This has become consistent as hell with the liberal media (trump staged his own assassination, biden is competent, trump didn't get shot by a bullet, etc etc). So, just like all of these other themes, the liberal media goes "here republicans go again, jumping to conclusions, they didn do their research, they are wrong they are idiots etc." Then they allow their audience to believe this is some normal chick that just looks masculine. Their reasoning was BS to begin with "meh russian collusion, they wont state the specifics (it was THEM who were using the lack of specifics to lie to the public).
3. Now, we get clarification, yet again, like in all these other instances that - no the "initial outlash" was correct. This girl doesn't belong here.
I see liberals on my facebook posting Idiocracy memes. They actually think its the conservatives that are stupid. Then i somehow ran across a profile of these LGBTQ and "trans" ones. Turns out - its a heterosexual male and a heterosexual female that are dating. They are identifying all this other stuff, and LGBTQ wearing rainbows etc, but at the end of the day, they are just two straight people that think they are gay? What the crap is going on?
/ end rant.
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:24 am to Ebridg3
quote:
So, lets recap -
1. News article breaks about this - people are outraged.
2. Mostly liberals see this as a political attack on trans community - comes out and shames republicans and everyone who attacked based on the VAGUE response (This has become consistent as hell with the liberal media (trump staged his own assassination, biden is competent, trump didn't get shot by a bullet, etc etc). So, just like all of these other themes, the liberal media goes "here republicans go again, jumping to conclusions, they didn do their research, they are wrong they are idiots etc." Then they allow their audience to believe this is some normal chick that just looks masculine. Their reasoning was BS to begin with "meh russian collusion, they wont state the specifics (it was THEM who were using the lack of specifics to lie to the public).
3. Now, we get clarification, yet again, like in all these other instances that - no the "initial outlash" was correct. This girl doesn't belong here.
I see liberals on my facebook posting Idiocracy memes. They actually think its the conservatives that are stupid. Then i somehow ran across a profile of these LGBTQ and "trans" ones. Turns out - its a heterosexual male and a heterosexual female that are dating. They are identifying all this other stuff, and LGBTQ wearing rainbows etc, but at the end of the day, they are just two straight people that think they are gay? What the crap is going on?
/ end rant.
FYI, your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think maga people are weird
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:26 am to AUriptide
Semifinals are tomorrow morning
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:27 am to rnojoman
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FYI, your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think maga people are weird
Here we go with the media programming “weird” bullshite. The entire democrat party is a freak show and you wanna call others weird. You people are straight up brainwashed
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:27 am to rnojoman
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FYI, your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think maga people are weird
Stop misgendering the boxer. He is a male.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:28 am to Ebridg3
Good lord this shouldn’t be this difficult and confusing
-not directed at you OP just overall in general. We make things so complicated
-not directed at you OP just overall in general. We make things so complicated
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:29 am to rnojoman
JFC. Seeing something that is wrong, debating it, and demanding change from those in a position to fix things things is exactly what productive people in civil society are supposed to do.
Only a psychopath looks at the world through the lens of "everyone I disagree with is an obsessed unhinged cult nazi".
Only a psychopath looks at the world through the lens of "everyone I disagree with is an obsessed unhinged cult nazi".
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:31 am to Vacherie Saint
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Only a psychopath looks at the world through the lens of "everyone I disagree with is an obsessed unhinged cult nazi".
Says the weirdo looking into the testosterone levels of a female boxer from Algeria
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:32 am to rnojoman
good lord, we are fricked as a society.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:33 am to Vacherie Saint
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Only a psychopath looks at the world through the lens of "everyone I disagree with is an obsessed unhinged cult nazi".
With your standard prog goon best you can hope for is one volley of debate before they resort to ad hom attacks.
I guess most schools quit teaching logical fallacies right before they dropped civics.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:34 am to Ebridg3
Neither of them pass the eye test. They have a distinctive male look about them.
The interesting part is that if they truly were born with female genitalia and still have female genitalia but blood markers and other biological characteristics more associated with males, we’re in a much more difficult place in trying to police this stuff.
The interesting part is that if they truly were born with female genitalia and still have female genitalia but blood markers and other biological characteristics more associated with males, we’re in a much more difficult place in trying to police this stuff.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:35 am to Ebridg3
Politicians have immense difficulty in determining whether a person is male or female. My Dad a WWII Normandy Invasion survivor would not be able to believe that this question could even be asked let along not easily answered.
There are two different aspects to consider.
Phenotype and Genotype
Genetic -- DNA you are either 46XY or 46X Male or Female
Phenotype Secondary sex characteristics Testicles, Penis, Vagina Ovaries, Uterus. etc. Not exactly rocket science. Children are able to easily identify at an early age. It just seems adults are the ones who are challenged to distinguish.
Does not appear to be a challenge in the animal kingdom either.
Noah was able to figure it out when loading up the arc. God did not seem to have much difficulty creating Eve and somehow making her different from Adam.
Yes there are some genetic mix-ups where the Chromsomes get crossed and you have an aberration but that is exceedingly rare.
Of course, if you are an oyster then you are a protandric creature
Most oysters do not have a fixed sex that stays with them throughout the course of their life. Instead, they are protandric animals, meaning that they can change from male to female over the course of a lifetime.
wow probably too long. TLDL got on a rant.
There are two different aspects to consider.
Phenotype and Genotype
Genetic -- DNA you are either 46XY or 46X Male or Female
Phenotype Secondary sex characteristics Testicles, Penis, Vagina Ovaries, Uterus. etc. Not exactly rocket science. Children are able to easily identify at an early age. It just seems adults are the ones who are challenged to distinguish.
Does not appear to be a challenge in the animal kingdom either.
Noah was able to figure it out when loading up the arc. God did not seem to have much difficulty creating Eve and somehow making her different from Adam.
Yes there are some genetic mix-ups where the Chromsomes get crossed and you have an aberration but that is exceedingly rare.
Of course, if you are an oyster then you are a protandric creature
Most oysters do not have a fixed sex that stays with them throughout the course of their life. Instead, they are protandric animals, meaning that they can change from male to female over the course of a lifetime.
wow probably too long. TLDL got on a rant.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:41 am to rnojoman
You find this odd or in your brainwashed terms “weird”.
Should athletes dope? PEDs?
Should it be tested? No?
“Weird” to test for cheating?
Once again it’s “weird” to rely on science and “normal” to be a political zombie in the leftist perspective.
Should athletes dope? PEDs?
Should it be tested? No?
“Weird” to test for cheating?
Once again it’s “weird” to rely on science and “normal” to be a political zombie in the leftist perspective.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:41 am to TigerPlate
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Politicians have immense difficulty in determining whether a person is male or female.
I think I can speak for most grounded people when I say - we don't give a crap about someone's gender, unless it has to do with something that requires things be categorized by gender.
In the context of sports - this is pretty clear cut. There are standards with regard to testosterone levels and chromosomes that are there for player safety. These standards were not upheld in this situation. That is the explicit, scientific backing of this. Allowing this girl to participate was one of emotion, not logic. That's a fact, Jack.
When looking at the interactions and exchanges that occured between the IBA and the Olympic committee, this was categorized as an issue of trans rights ironically, as they also get into over the opening ceremony. So, essentially, this was virtue signaling by the Olympic comittee, done on purpose to stir all of this up -- with the intent of coming out on top. So, they already knew the news was going to come out, and had their counter points ready to go the next day. Now, they want to shift focus to something else before the IBA and other organizations, like the European Boxing Organization - which isn't a bunch of Russians - jumped in and called them out for what they are doing here.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:43 am to rnojoman
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FYI, your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think
maga people are weird
Last time I saw this many people knighting so hard for a dude that likes to beat on women, I was passing through the hood during the OJ trial.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:43 am to rnojoman
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your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think maga people are weird
Your inability to determine a difference between a biological male and a biological female is comical at best and borders on mental illness...
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:44 am to Ebridg3
A woman can have high testosterone. A woman can be void of boobs.
BUT
A woman cannot have XY chromosomes. The boxer had them. He's a guy.
The IOC does not check for chromosomes for some odd reason.
BUT
A woman cannot have XY chromosomes. The boxer had them. He's a guy.
The IOC does not check for chromosomes for some odd reason.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:47 am to rnojoman
quote:The question is whether or not biological males should be competing against biological females in sporting events, especially contact sports like boxing. There is an ethical component to this discussion that is important to understand. Dismissing discussion as some sort of "obsession" is not helpful.
FYI, your unhinged obsession with this woman's genitalia is just another prime example of why normal Americans think maga people are weird
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:51 am to The Maj
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Your inability to determine a difference between a biological male and a biological female is comical at best and borders on mental illness...
So even though this woman was born with female genitalia, they are biologically a male? Does that mean a woman born with male genitalia is biologically a woman if she has slightly higher estrogen levels? lmao you idiots literally cannot put together a single logical argument.
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