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Elon Musk discussed the idea of a government efficiency commission w/ Donald Trump

Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:03 am
Posted by boomtown143
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:03 am
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Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:12 am to
In Texas, every government agency (except those specified in the state Constitution) are reviewed every 12 years by the Sunset Commission, and are either renewed, reorganized, or abolished.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:17 am to
Yes. This and as it relates to the federal budget: a zero based budget every year. No more deficits and no more bloated programs getting billions every year because that's what they got the year previous.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:23 am to
I have long advocated sunset laws at the federal level, especially for the IRS.
Posted by BamaCoaster
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:25 am to
Rand Paul introduced the red tape act, or something like that, years ago. It didn’t go anywhere, but it basically incentivized bureaucrats monetarily by giving them a percentage of what money they saved the public through efficiency and cost cutting.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:27 am to
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are reviewed every 12 years by the Sunset Commission, and are either renewed, reorganized, or abolished.


Should be every 12 months
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:33 am to
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Should be every 12 months


This. We don't have much time really. every 12 years won't cut it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:55 am to
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but it basically incentivized bureaucrats monetarily by giving them a percentage of what money they saved the public through efficiency and cost cutting.


So politicians would be getting a salary at taxpayer's expense plus getting a percentage on how much they save taxpayers through cost cutting something that they are already getting paid a salary for? Yeah, I'm not sure that's the answer of an honest politician seeing as to how he gets richer for doing something he's already geting paid for.

If politicians want to save the taxpayers money let them work for free and then get a percentage on how much they save us with wiser spending of our hard earned money.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:56 am to
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Rand Paul introduced the red tape act, or something like that, years ago. It didn’t go anywhere, but it basically incentivized bureaucrats monetarily by giving them a percentage of what money they saved the public through efficiency and cost cutting.


That's a NO

Yes, we wan't people with a business mindset to run the country. But why have we forgotten being in political office is a "service" to the people.
i.e. you are giving up your time to SERVE. You shouldn't expect to become rich or wealthy while in office. That's not why you are there.

The problem is politicians have been so disrespectful to the people that the people don't hold those politicians in office with high regard.

we should look at politicians like "oh wow, that man is willing to serve us with an avg salary" in a way.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 8:01 am
Posted by Tasseo
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:14 am to
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Elon Musk discussed the idea of a government efficiency commission w/ Donald Trump

Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:20 am to
its a better idea than whats going on now. It may also expose some of the crookedness going on.

I would rather create incentives to do good than do bad and have bags dished out by lobbyist and others.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6544 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:26 am to
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That's a NO

Yes, we wan't people with a business mindset to run the country. But why have we forgotten being in political office is a "service" to the people.
i.e. you are giving up your time to SERVE. You shouldn't expect to become rich or wealthy while in office. That's not why you are there.

The problem is politicians have been so disrespectful to the people that the people don't hold those politicians in office with high regard.



Must be nice shooting down proposals on "principal" without getting into alternatives that may actually work,
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 9:27 am
Posted by FtheNWO
Member since Nov 2021
241 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:40 am to
SpaceX revealed just how badly NASA has been run for the last 40 years.
The shuttle program was a disaster, with two lost crews and the promise of 'reusability' being a joke as the cost of each flight was still over a billion.

Then there was the era without even the capability of manned spaceflight. Forced to hitch a ride up on Soyuz to get to space. Forced to buy Russian made engines (RD180) for our own rockets because they are so inept. Still willing to spend the annual ~20 billion budget with very little to show for it.

Now all they can do is slap some 40 year old tech together and call it Artemis and still charge billions per launch. Old RS25 engines that each cost several times was a complete Falcon 9 mission costs. Zero reusability, enormous cost and weak objectives.

I don't trust Musk at all. I don't trust anyone who came up through finance. But the man seems to have genius in multiple disciplines not least of which is manufacturing technology. He's able to reduce costs orders of magnitude which should be impossible. While Shuttle took years to build he wants to build one Starship per day. He's already launched 6000 starlink sats. That was impossible when comsats were hundreds of millions each.

Of course that bloat and inefficiency is everywhere in government, with millions of pigs at the trough. Nobody wants to get exposed like NASA has been exposed, especially the MIC. He's going to have enemies, some of them very powerful.
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:45 am to
Our Legislature only meets every other year.

And 12 years gives time to see if implemented changes are working.

Plus, the wording in the renewal legislation makes abolition automatic unless the Legislature takes action to affirmatively renew it. When it does, if it decides a sooner review is needed, it moves the automatic abolition date up so the Sunset Commission has to take action.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6544 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:47 am to
If we can get to mars and Terraform it, maybe it can be a truly free planted. We might be able to fight off the Chinese and the Feds from over there.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:56 am to
One that needs changed is all the DEI contracts where its not the bid or best ability, rather some better bids are never used due to quotas.

There is so much pork in Gov. and with us approaching $35T debt we need to reduce spending.

I would imagine this commission would put forward recommendations but then we need to know who makes the decisions.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:09 am to
I would heed the call of duty if I had the chance to be on that committee.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:16 am to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:00 pm to
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government efficiency

THIS ^^^ Is an oxymoron.

Trump and Musk coordinating to create a small team that could shrink all the other teams, in my opinion, would be exemplary. I'd actually trust someone like Musk to trim a LOT of redundant fat and spending.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Yeah, I'm not sure that's the answer of an honest politician seeing as to how he gets richer for doing something he's already geting paid for.


Well, you need to start with the assumption that there are no honest politicians.
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