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Does law Review/Journal really have an impact in the job market?
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:04 pm
Just curious to know if it’s opened any doors for any law baws here.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:07 pm to Masterag
I still see jobs posted referencing it for people with 3-5 years of experience. And these are LA jobs, so not even real Biglaw like you'd find in legit metro areas.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:09 pm to Masterag
Probably depends on where one is looking for a job. I would say that is the sort of thing a big law firm wants to see on a prospective associate’s résumé. Obviously there are only so many students in a law school class that will actually be on law review, trial journal, etc., though, so it’s probably not going to hurt you if you’re looking at medium or small firms.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:09 pm to Masterag
There are some firms that will interview only Coif/Law Review applicants and if no one impresses them, they will pass on hiring until the next cycle.
So, it is a real thing.
So, it is a real thing.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:21 pm to Masterag
It is definitely a positive in our hiring process. It is a mark of legal writing skills and a willingness to spend the extra hours.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:31 pm to Masterag
Law Review matters. Other journals don’t.
s/ a snobby Law Review alum
In all seriousness: journals, and law review in particular, are basically prerequisites for judicial clerkships. Otherwise, a journal looks good on a resume.
But law review is going to be something you will have on your resume and attorney bio forever, and it presents opportunities for friendships with other people at the top of the class.
s/ a snobby Law Review alum
In all seriousness: journals, and law review in particular, are basically prerequisites for judicial clerkships. Otherwise, a journal looks good on a resume.
But law review is going to be something you will have on your resume and attorney bio forever, and it presents opportunities for friendships with other people at the top of the class.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:38 pm to Masterag
For the firms who interview on campus, law school is still crazy focused on first year grades and really first semester grades for 1l summer job.
That all correlates with making law review. And that all impacts big firm jobs right out of law school.
Not necessarily fair, but thems the breaks. But when you’re talking job market three or four plus years out, law review is just a forgotten paper on the wall.
That all correlates with making law review. And that all impacts big firm jobs right out of law school.
Not necessarily fair, but thems the breaks. But when you’re talking job market three or four plus years out, law review is just a forgotten paper on the wall.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:40 pm to Masterag
The litigators in my firm seem to care, but they also only ever hire federal clerks.
The transactional group doesn’t care at all.
The transactional group doesn’t care at all.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:47 am to Masterag
As a law school prospect I’d love to hear more about this. What’s the process? How do I submit. I’d love some law school advice.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:15 am to Motownsix
Best law school advice is don’t go
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:39 am to Masterag
I think that with respect to clerkships and positions in the mega-firms law review experience is a plus, but for the everyday, run-of-the-mill law firms, that is hardly a factor.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:02 am to Motownsix
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As a law school prospect I’d love to hear more about this. What’s the process? How do I submit. I’d love some law school advice.
You’ll find out after the first semester, it’s dependent on your grades. You can also write on if you are just outside of the cutoff (top 10-20% I believe)
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:20 am to Motownsix
At my school, everyone competed in a “write-on” competition after 1L second semester exams, which comprised of writing a short paper (~15 pages) using only the research materials provided. They graded on writing obviously, but also analysis and citation. The competition also had a separate blue-book competition where you had to correctly cite provided sources or correct given citation.
Only the top 50% of the class (based on GPA) was eligible for law review, but in reality, only the top 20% actually got on. There were about 5 other journals that took other students writing on who didn’t make law review.
I think law review is helpful for the majority of big law jobs and certainly for clerkships. But if you know you don’t care about research or litigation, I wouldn’t do it.
If you don’t make law review but you want to clerk or do big law litigation, you can still do a journal, but the most bang for your buck will be moot court, trial advocacy, and networking.
Only the top 50% of the class (based on GPA) was eligible for law review, but in reality, only the top 20% actually got on. There were about 5 other journals that took other students writing on who didn’t make law review.
I think law review is helpful for the majority of big law jobs and certainly for clerkships. But if you know you don’t care about research or litigation, I wouldn’t do it.
If you don’t make law review but you want to clerk or do big law litigation, you can still do a journal, but the most bang for your buck will be moot court, trial advocacy, and networking.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:24 am to Masterag
Being on Law Review usually means you were in the top 10% of the class so yeah, it has an impact on your job prospects, especially at major firms and clerkships.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:27 am to Masterag
My brother didnthe review and journalnrhing at UVA. Between his positions on the Review and Journal and a law diploma saying UVA, he was an immediate top candidate in patent law anywhere he wanted to go in the country.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:31 am to Motownsix
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As a law school prospect I’d love to hear more about this. What’s the process? How do I submit.
I don’t know exactly how every law school does it, but in general you qualify to potentially be on law review or whatever other journal the school has based on your 1L year performance. You’ll be invited to participate in a “write-on” competition where typically you write a sample article for law review. You’re judged on your sample article and those who perform the best are invited to join the law review or journal.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:40 am to prplhze2000
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Being on Law Review usually means you were in the top 10% of the class so yeah, it has an impact on your job prospects, especially at major firms and clerkships.
It should be noted that the quality of the school is a major factor here too.
Not making Law Review at Harvard or Yale is no big deal - most doors outside of a select few will still be wide open.
Not making Law Review at a bottom feeder school means you will be hanging a shingle and teaching yourself how to scrounge out a living under circumstances that are far removed from what most people envision when they apply to law school.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:05 pm to Motownsix
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What’s the process? How do I submit.
Like the others have said. Each school has its own process for how their membership is determined. But it’s always some combination of overall grades, legal writing grades, write on fact patter and citation test.
the review members will let you know the process about halfway through second semester and you’ll hear chatter about it from your cohorts on a regular basis. There literally no possible way to not know anything and everything about it by the end of 1L year.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:06 pm to Masterag
Mostly no. First job yes more so but totally depends on the type of firm
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:09 pm to El Segundo Guy
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My brother didnthe review and journalnrhing at UVA. Between his positions on the Review and Journal and a law diploma saying UVA, he was an immediate top candidate in patent law anywhere he wanted to go in the country.
With what kind of technical background?
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