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Yeskie: Building a Pitching Staff
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:57 am
Can anyone speak with some intelligence on their thoughts on Yeskie and how he is building the pitching staff for the future?
With the recent transfers, could it be that he is processing folks? Perhaps his ideal staff doesn’t quite line up with the players he inherited?
I really enjoy baseball but don’t have the experience to know how to process how he might be building for the future.
With the recent transfers, could it be that he is processing folks? Perhaps his ideal staff doesn’t quite line up with the players he inherited?
I really enjoy baseball but don’t have the experience to know how to process how he might be building for the future.
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:00 am to John Cocktosten
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With the recent transfers, could it be that he is processing folks?
Yes
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Perhaps his ideal staff doesn’t quite line up with the players he inherited?
Some of the players probably do no t line up with what he wants.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:09 am to John Cocktosten
It’s all year-to-year free agency now. Come to one of the big boy programs, and you either perform or get processed. Perform at the second level and get a shot with the big boys.
Fair? Probably not, but it’s where college baseball (and all the major sports) are now.
Fair? Probably not, but it’s where college baseball (and all the major sports) are now.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:21 am to High C
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It’s all year-to-year free agency now. Come to one of the big boy programs, and you either perform or get processed. Perform at the second level and get a shot with the big boys.
Only solution for this is to make scholarships contracts. It will protect both the players and the programs.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:22 am to John Cocktosten
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With the recent transfers, could it be that he is processing folks?
Some of them, yes, all of them, no.
I think they probably asked guys like Bucknam and Bronzini to move on for sure. I'm not so sure if guys like Loer, Seo, Dutton, Coleman were asked to leave or just entered on their own entirely. Could see that going either way.
I'd be pretty surprised if they asked Moffett or Johnson to move on considering their potential.
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I really enjoy baseball but don’t have the experience to know how
to process how he might be building for the future.
Hard ot get a full grasp on the details behind all of the above, but Yeskie certainly has a vision of guys he wants and all the guys we're bringing in through the portal have thrown a lot of innings so far, so he's definitely getting experienced guys. 1 missing piece still is still adding a couple more left handed arms IMO which is tougher to work on. As it stands right now we're looking to have only 3-4 left handed pitchers next season before we add anyone else and 2 of those could be pretty low leverage in Primeaux and Ware from JUCO.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:42 am to Locoguan0
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Only solution for this is to make scholarships contracts. It will protect both the players and the programs.
So we sue college players for breach of contract if they leave?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:50 am to Locoguan0
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Only solution for this is to make scholarships contracts. It will protect both the players and the programs.
Nothing like the threat of suing a kid to make him feel warm and cozy about committing. Just wait for the all of the clauses any kid with leverage would want to put in there.
Why is it so hard to accept (at least in baseball) that kids may have to leave to maximize the limited the time they have to play. No every kid is leaving "for the bag".
Not sure what is worse referencing "the bag", "respect my decision" or "taking my talents".
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:08 am to John Cocktosten
None of this should concern anyone. Entitlement especially with young people is at an all time high. We have learned in the last year that a guy can have all the talent in the world, throw nothing but wild pitches in live game situations, and then transfer out because they aren't featured enough in their first season.
It's just the way it is, let them leave. Every player who has left the program this season has had their challenges, whether they end up being good players or not down the road is fine. I like the replacements we have coming in and it feels like a straight upgrade, but you have to also respect the fact that we're benefitting from the exact same thing that another school took from us that we got offended by. Gotta take the good with the bad.
It's just the way it is, let them leave. Every player who has left the program this season has had their challenges, whether they end up being good players or not down the road is fine. I like the replacements we have coming in and it feels like a straight upgrade, but you have to also respect the fact that we're benefitting from the exact same thing that another school took from us that we got offended by. Gotta take the good with the bad.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:20 am to CatfishJohn
No, but they can't play anywhere while under contract
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:22 am to CatfishJohn
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So we sue college players for breach of contract if they leave?
Contract might say they can leave, but they can’t sign with/ play for another school. Another program couldn’t sign him if he’s still under one with another school.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:33 am to John Cocktosten
Right handed pitchers not allowed. Lefties only.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:35 am to BeachTiger2018
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Contract might say they can leave, but they can’t sign with/ play for another school. Another program couldn’t sign him if he’s still under one with another school.
So you want the NCAA to enforce this? Because the NCAA is toothless.
Maybe the schools can get together and agree to this for the greater good?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:05 pm to John Cocktosten
I can speak, but with no intelligence
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:12 pm to John Cocktosten
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Can anyone speak with some intelligence on their thoughts on Yeskie and how he is building the pitching staff for the future?
Intelligence, no. But Yeskie has seen these pitchers for a season. He’s worked with them and knows better if their potential is worth the effort or not. Some stats were posted earlier this week showing our pitchers performed better than they looked.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:32 pm to John Cocktosten
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Can anyone speak with some intelligence on their thoughts on Yeskie and how he is building the pitching staff for the future?
With the recent transfers, could it be that he is processing folks? Perhaps his ideal staff doesn’t quite line up with the players he inherited?
I really enjoy baseball but don’t have the experience to know how to process how he might be building for the future.
It's Jay's staff, Jay's vision, and he's building the staff for his future. Jay's very hands-on. He's not just giving Yeskie free reign to do whatever he wants regarding personnel. I'm sure he consults Yeskie and they collaborate and have a shared vision for the guys we have and what we need to fill in the gaps.
I'm sure they're on the same page or we'd be on our 4th pitching coach in his 1st 4 years. But Jay's the one that's gonna be out there recruiting them and texting and calling them all the time until they commit somewhere. The success and/or failures of the staff go on Jay's permanent record. Yeskie has to get on board with his vision, not the other way around.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:33 pm to John Cocktosten
I don’t think anyone has been processed. Jose guys leaving on their own
Figuring a way to get your team MVP (Herring) to come back would be a major step in building out the 2025 staff. But seems like one of several pitchers that dislike Yeskie’s pitch calling
Figuring a way to get your team MVP (Herring) to come back would be a major step in building out the 2025 staff. But seems like one of several pitchers that dislike Yeskie’s pitch calling
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:45 pm to Lester Earl
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But seems like one of several pitchers that dislike Yeskie’s pitch calling
Based on what? You hearing chatter from players?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:19 pm to SoloTiger
Herring was throwing a fit on the mound about it & Guidry’s dad said many of the pitchers do no like it
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:36 pm to CatfishJohn
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So we sue college players for breach of contract if they leave?
Yes or return the money for the years you didn’t play. Do you have a better solution?
That’s how the free market handles contracts.
The players wanted this. They wanted to be treated like adults free to do as they wish. I have no problem with it. This is the way the real world works.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:12 pm to Lester Earl
I wasn’t personally a fan of his pitch calling most of the year. However, his “dad” only seems to post things like, “all the players don’t like _____” or “everybody really hates ____”.
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